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#16 Greg

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 06:28 PM

Vanilla / HQ Paper (STEP) / MAPS

 

Sleeping Giant Inn

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Whiterun Mage's Quarters

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Dragonsreach

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 06:33 PM

Looking at these comparisons, I think the vanilla and HQ Paper maps are too shiny and clean. These maps are handled a lot, so I think Gamwich is right in that these maps should be dirty.



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Posted 12 June 2016 - 07:22 PM

Hmm, I'm of the opposite opinion. These are maps are used by the "elite" who tell the dirty masses what to do and as susch they will rarely get dirt on their hands, let alone their maps.

 

I actually prefer the HQ Paper to the others.



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Posted 12 June 2016 - 07:44 PM

I can't decide. I'll have to see for myself.



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Posted 12 June 2016 - 08:29 PM

I actually remember comparing these in-game now. I didn't like Gamwich due to just how grungy they looked. I prefer HQ Paper and it's closer to vanilla. Gamwich in this case is what I would call a "stylistic" change from vanilla.



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Posted 22 June 2016 - 05:44 AM

Well, I'll go Gamwich's. Maps like that should be looking old and 'a bit' deteriorated. HQ Paper and Vanilla is just too clean.


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Posted 23 June 2016 - 02:15 AM

I can see the ones on the tables and such and being handled being a bit dirtier they have people handling them, rubbing, etc and candle smoke. The ones on the wall in say Dragonsreach HQ paper all the way



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 02:26 AM

I can see the ones on the tables and such and being handled being a bit dirtier they have people handling them, rubbing, etc and candle smoke. The ones on the wall in say Dragonsreach HQ paper all the way

+1

The main thing I don't like about HQ Paper is the table maps being slightly cut off. This is pretty noticeable in the bottom right corner of the table map compares.

For the wall, I agree that HQ Paper looks nicer. It also makes sense that a wall map would be in much better condition than a table map that is being handled all the time.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 12:53 PM

The HQ Paper wall map is cut off the same as the table map.



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 01:37 PM

The HQ Paper wall map is cut off the same as the table map.

Hmm, it is much more noticeable on the table maps in the compares (probably due to lighting). I'll have to check out both in game again.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 05:24 PM

I can see the ones on the tables and such and being handled being a bit dirtier they have people handling them, rubbing, etc and candle smoke. The ones on the wall in say Dragonsreach HQ paper all the way

+1

The main thing I don't like about HQ Paper is the table maps being slightly cut off. This is pretty noticeable in the bottom right corner of the table map compares.

For the wall, I agree that HQ Paper looks nicer. It also makes sense that a wall map would be in much better condition than a table map that is being handled all the time.

I actually like this solution as well. 
 

The HQ Paper wall map is cut off the same as the table map.

I'm actually not bothered by it on the wall map. It adds some variety. By the way, this is not a "cut off". If you look at it closely it's the how the author decided to do that edge. It's just "torn" rather close to the land's edge.

Upon closer inspection, though Gamwich's coloring is dark and needs to be let up on the greens, the artistic style is closer to vanilla than HQ Paper.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 05:36 PM

Before I get asked what I mean by "greens" I mean the levels:

 

Original  >>  After tiny tweak to the levels

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All I did as a tiny shift in the green and red levels. It's small but it'll be more noticeable in-game after processing. It could probably use a little more than that and a slight bump to it's contrast...I'm going to stop before I go off making an alternative texture. I have other things to focus on.



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 05:59 PM

Upon closer inspection, though Gamwich's coloring is dark and needs to be let up on the greens, the artistic style is closer to vanilla than HQ Paper.

 

This.

 

Well, CMIIW but does Skyrim have 2 kind of texture for maps? Could anybody tell me the difference between those two?


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#29 TechAngel85

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 06:11 PM

Well, CMIIW but does Skyrim have 2 kind of texture for maps? Could anybody tell me the difference between those two?

Yes and no. The map compares above are of all battlmap01.dds. There is another map, battlemap02.dds, but it is completely different.

 

If you wanted two different maps, it would take some CK work with a duplicated mesh that points to an alternative texture. Though I said I liked the solution above, it would be a custom one and is for a mod author to provide. It's not something you can do without a mod changing things up for you. It would be a simple mod to do though. :^_^:



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Posted 24 June 2016 - 01:14 PM

Its unrealistic such important documents would be written on cheap quality paper, often maps in history used calfskins and similar methods. Gamwich maps have a more leather look to them, take for instance "paper maps" used in the snow region camps, they wouldn't last long enough to be useful.


Edited by Sixxness, 24 June 2016 - 01:20 PM.

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