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#1 GamerPoets

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 11:12 PM

Has anyone been reporting issues of fallout 3 no longer working because of any recent updates regarding windows 10 that anyone knows of?

 

I'll post my issues tomorrow if anyone cares lol (and when I'm awake to be able to type properly), but I thought that I'd ask to see if this is yet a known issue or omething that has been going on with windows 10 recently. I swore I had it working before but now I can't (following C&PD and other guides as well). It's been nearly a year since I've attempted Fallout 3 and I may have been running it on windows 7 then. I can't remember. In the end I may just do a dual system boot but again, i wanted to ask first if anyone has heard about updates being the cause of old processes no longer working. 


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#2 Kelmych

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 12:26 AM

I changed my system from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 a few months ago. I used the simple upgrade; I did't do a full reinstallation. So far I haven't had any problems with Windows 10. I haven't tried to do any particularly complex with Fallout 3 but I have been able to run the various utilities like xEdit, Wrye Flash, and LOOT. I have read of users having problems with various Bethesda games when updates were installed, but so far I haven't had this problem.



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Posted 23 September 2016 - 12:32 AM

You're response both gives me hope and makes me want to cry lol

 

I spent 10 hours today messing around with it. I use multiple drives so my last thought was... perhaps thats the issue. Though, knowing that it does work on windows 10 for you makes me feel a lot better than reading the random posts all over the internet. If I trust anyone about this game it will be you. 

 

My operating system is on my C drive. But the main steam library is on D drive (i have like 5 drives and multiple SteamLibraries.. but only the one main Steam install). If install FO3 to any drive other than D the falloutlauncher.exe instant crashes. If i install the game to D drive at least the launcher works... part of me is thinking that both Steam and the game need to be installed on the C drive for it to work. 

 

I've tried the windows live disabler (after installing windows live), the admin and compatibility mode options, changing/adding two settings in my .ini files as some places suggested and i've done this all with clean installations and on various drives to test it all. 

 

My fear about everything needing to be on the c drive is that i have skyrim and new vegas installed, modded to the gills, working perfectly and two roleplay series in progress on the channel. It would be weeks of work to redo if I deleted everything and started from scratch just to test out this theory.


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Posted 23 September 2016 - 01:02 AM

What version of Nvidia drivers are you using? Any driver past the July ones will cause instant crash for Fallout 3 and New Vegas upon load. There are posts all over reddit talking about how Nvidia are battling it out with Microsoft to fix the issue. Try rolling back to 368.81 doing a clean install with Display Driver Uninstaller.


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#5 GrantSP

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 01:03 AM

The only issue I had, that I can remember properly, was my initial copy of FO3 was on a DVD and Windows10 refused to recognise the DRM code on it, switched to my Steam version and all went fine.

Your last post seems to indicate that you're using a Steam version so that's probably not the same thing I saw. I have read though about major graphics driver issues though that may be the cause. Sorry can't recall where I read those.

 

EDIT:

@Audley ninja'd me and looks like the issues I was mentioning, he's also heard of.



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Posted 23 September 2016 - 01:07 AM

Yea Nvida and/or Microsoft really borked up on this one. There are now reports of AMD having the same issue with their latest drivers. But I have not tested that out yet.


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#7 GamerPoets

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 10:56 AM

.. .and he is a ninja it looks like = ) 

Thank you for all the responses folks.

My drivers are updated to the recent version but as I said regarding New Vegas, it runs perfectly being modded to the brim. I'll mess around with the drivers as a last resort (and I'm close lol).

 

Shameless New Vegas example (plug) of things working:

 

I have more than one pc and due to my daily burnout routine I forgot that I could just try my fallout 3 theory on that pc without messing around with my gaming one. Im about to do that now. I will let you know if that "fixes it". I'm actually in process of creating a fallout 3 installation and setup video with the help of a GP community member and this has been my driving force behind getting this correct. I shall return...

 

EDIT: Same thing on the other PC. aw well. Going to try the drivers =)


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#8 MonoAccipiter

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 11:38 AM

Kind of OT, but I wanted to give you some praise for your NV Let's Play, GP. Really enjoyed the episode! Gave me the push I needed to update my pack for CaliberX's new version.


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Posted 23 September 2016 - 12:34 PM

Thank you Mono = ) glad to inspire and motivate. It was the main reason for why I tried to take the channel from a hobby to a profession in the first place (providing something that shows effort and care in medium saturated with quite the opposite). My ever teetering polarity appreciates it = )

 

I'm giving up on Fallout 3 for the time being (sadly). I'll be back to it sometime. Have to move on for now. 


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#10 Kelmych

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Posted 23 September 2016 - 12:45 PM

In case it helps for when you come back to Fallout 3, I'm using an AMD R9 card with the latest drivers.

 

As MonoAccipeter mentioned, your Fallout series (both Fallout 3 and NV) are great. They are referenced in the Fallout 3 guide, of course.



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Posted 23 September 2016 - 01:40 PM

Thank you = ) I really love Fallout 3 and hope to get back to it someday. I know that it's old but it has so much potential.

 

I want to start the fallout 3 series over again one day with a new character and upload it as well. The New vegas roleplay uses mostly the mods from the step guide as well. i add an ENB and a few other things but not much.

 

If anyone has specific tutorial ideas let me know. sometimes they take me months to be able to get together with all that I am doing but I like to have things ready to work on instead of having to search for stuff. Now that I have 3 people helping to write the rough drafts for these tutorial in text (oblivion, fo3 and fonv) i can hopefully move thigns along a bit faster, even if only a bit. 


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Posted 23 September 2016 - 05:23 PM

I created a new topic to maybe help some other folks who would miss this post. Wanted to share it here as well incase it does help... ON WARD FO3!!!

http://forum.step-pr...ng/#entry182409


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