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#1 EssArrBee

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 12:02 PM

ENBoost by Boris Vorontsov
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STEP does not recommend downloading the Skyrim Nexus version of ENBoost due to incorrect settings for STEP.
Grab the latest binary from ENB Dev: http://enbdev.com/do..._tesskyrim.html

 

Boris's VRAMSizeTest Tool for ENBoost: http://enbdev.com/do...amsizetest.html

  • For Skyrim run the DX9 version.
  • For Windows 7, subtract 170 from the value the tool gives.
  • For Windows 8/10, subtract 305 from the value the tool gives.
  • Set VideoMemorySizeMb in the "Enblocal.ini" file to the resulting value.

 
CTD and Performance patch ENBoost by Boris Vorontsov

Looks like Boris has pretty much figured out his memory fix and released it on the nexus. I believe you still need ENB and then the file on the nexus is an extra INI that is dependent on your videocard.



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Posted 23 July 2013 - 03:03 PM

Awesome - 8K x 8K textures of every twig here we come!!! :)
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Posted 23 July 2013 - 04:30 PM

Don't lose the ground beneath your feet. This plugin is not witchcraft. I still get memory CTDs using this plugin.
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 08:07 AM

Don't lose the ground beneath your feet. This plugin is not witchcraft. I still get memory CTDs using this plugin.

Another thing to test the limits of, I suppose!
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 08:48 AM

With vmmap the total memory used by tesv.exe stays the same- with or without the dll...
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 11:45 AM

With vmmap the total memory used by tesv.exe stays the same- with or without the dll...


Just try with latest enb and set all memory options to true in enblocal.ini
Without the ini, nothing happens, hence he also published a guide to adapt old presets to the new 2 ini files system.
I assume you did that?
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 12:10 PM

I've tested approx. 20 versions and none of them did anything for me. Are you using VMMap to monitor your Ram usage? If not, do so and tell me Skyrim truly only uses 1.9 GB RAM with a fully HD modded setup.
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 12:49 PM

If we use this with just the memory fix and no graphics, then can we shut of the INI tweaks for ENB?

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 01:50 PM

Not sure if it was mentioned, but the following commands might help performance: Try to set ForceBorderless=false, ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false, EnableFPSLimit=false and if not helps, modify ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=false.
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 02:05 PM

If Boris actually finishes working on this memory fix, I'll try the dll again.
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Posted 25 July 2013 - 06:20 AM

I've tested approx. 20 versions and none of them did anything for me.
Are you using VMMap to monitor your Ram usage? If not, do so and tell me Skyrim truly only uses 1.9 GB RAM with a fully HD modded setup.

Hmm, I used Skyrim performance monitor (works with latest) and simple windows system monitor?...
I don't see a lot of difference but I have AMD graphics. He is still working on that.

20 versions? did you test all his 0.193 test versions? You need 0.193 DLL.

Everyone on the enb forum sees major benefit. I will try VMMap and see what happens...
The only thing that is annoying for me is that the Graphics card is used maximally now (you do need more than 1Gb VRAM to see a difference though!) so much so that the sound it makes becomes really annoying (seems to be a good OC stability test though). Hence I play without the performance tweaks for now.
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Posted 25 July 2013 - 10:56 AM

I've tried 20 out of the most recent 40 test versions of 1.93... I think i know what files i needed to do that. Please go ahead and try vmmap. All of the people praising the fix are using spm to monitor ram and admire how the figures differ, whilst vmmap doesn't give a damn whether cleanmem or other mem fixes are enabled. It'll provide a number and that's that.
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Posted 25 July 2013 - 12:36 PM

Have you tried an alternative monitor program to see how the VRAM fares torminater? If it is altered then something must be going on after all. I am personally still waiting for it all to get out of beta before I put down the verdict... people are like a raging horde when stuff like this comes around.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 02:07 PM

I'm not so concerned about the mob mentality at least it sometimes helps get things done. Too many people are like sheep and do what they're told and don't think for themselves except on the smallest of scales (one of the reasons the US political system is so messed up). I'll try this out regardless whenever I'm done taking my nap I'm pooped filming for most of the day for the past couple days has been quite exhausting.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 10:04 PM

here's my opinion:

The mod does make a difference. But not as big as some people claim. Things get blown out of proportion. Some people praise it way too much, so in response, other people criticize it in an attempt to stabilize its exaggerated effectiveness. People who like the mod will continue coming up with reasons as to why it is effective and then offer up some data that supports their claim. Then those who are skeptical will come back and question whether or not the data they provided is legit, leading to questions about the integrity of the software used to measure said data.
...and the cycle continues... and continues... and 'round and 'round we go


Here is my experience, I will give it to you in a primarily qualitative manner:

I use ENB for graphics mod. So when this new binary was released, it was very easy for me to implement. All i had to do was switch from the 0.186 to the 0.193 binary.. the only new parameters were the ones added for the "fix".

For the past 3 months, I have been able to reproduce a CTD by traveling on foot from falkreath to DB sanctuary, then entering. My system mem would shoot up to ~3150mb and I would crash. This has been reproducible like clockwork.. i could do it all day long, assuming i repeated the same steps and followed the same path. Also, none of the ideas that have been offered as potential solutions over the past few months have made any difference whatsoever.

Ok, now comes this "fix" from boris. Just like i have a hundred other times, the first thing i do after implementing a proposed fix is try to replicate the CTD. This time, however, there was no CTD. The first time as long as ive been running this 'test' i was able to complete it without a CTD. What does this tell me? It tells me that, without even looking at any of the numbers/data, something is different and has changed enough to where I am no longer able to reproduce a CTD that I have done many, many time before. If the only variable that changes is the presence or absence of this "fix", and i get different results between the two, i feel pretty safe saying there is a causal relationship. As far as this is concerned, I do not need any data to tell me there was a change because i was able to observe the change first-hand.

Now, if we want to consider data, that is an entirely separate issue. One that we could debate all day long. As I have said in a different post, if we've gotten to the point of questioning the integrity and validity of the software we use to measure and acquire our data, we will never be able to find common ground.
The other thing is, even if your method of measuring memory use is not the most accurate, it will still be able to show you when a large variation has occurred as a result of adding in this mod. If you normally run at 2600mb according to one program and 2800 according to a different program, then you install this mod and the first program reports 2100mb and the second one reports 2250mb. Clearly both programs are giving different data measurements and each program showed a significant decrease in memory, but the amount of change (delta) reported by the first program is smaller than the amount of change reported by the second program.
We can debate all day about validity of this and accuracy of that, but what is important is the fact that clearly there has been some change, regardless of the amount.


What it means:

I have observed with my own eyes a change in the way the game is played. i.e. unable to reproduce an otherwise reproducible CTD. Furthermore, I have measured a significant decrease in memory use... so significant that, even with the largest margin of error and most "inaccurate" tool, can not be simply explained away and negated. Thus, with all of this combined, I have no choice but to conclude that the ENB 'fix' released by boris has helped me, in some way or another, alleviate some (if not all) CTD that results from exceeding the 3.1gb threshold.  The "evidence" would also seem to suggest that system RAM usage has decreased, although we do not know exactly how much or to what extent. But i feel safe concluding that there has been some decrease in system RAM.
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