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#16 Farlo

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 08:22 PM

Link goes to an invalid page with nothing on it?

Fixed it, my bad.

Need this stuff sorted in one way or another else building packs will be troublesome. Right now (not literally) I'm thinking of just redoing the page with the correct title.I have not tried to add a modlist yet, will have another go when I've had some sleep.

Anyway will hopefully have a completed pack up and running some time tomorrow - GMT.

:)

This project is very much in an "alpha" stage; things will break, we're no where near done with it.  In fact I'm going to have to redo most of the code for the mod tables anyways.
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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:05 PM

Sorry my bad, didn't mean to come off pushy, I know that it's not fully ready - yet. :)
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#18 Farlo

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:15 PM

Sorry my bad, didn't mean to come off pushy, I know that it's not fully ready - yet.

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No problem, it's awesome that you're diving right in there with it. 
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:37 AM

Hi I can do no further work on this at present, either adding mods to the list or editing the packs as I do not have the needed permissions to do so. I thought about joining one of the groups e.g. Wiki Developer not sure if that applies precisely - perhaps a new category Pack Developer / Author? Either way I need to get the ability to change the title and to add a modlist. Currently the "Move" Option does not exist on any of my drop down menus and when I click on modlist I now get a form to fill in which is good but it quite clearly says that I do not have permission to edit this form. As for editing and adding mods, there are quite clear limits to what I am able to do within this form - should there perhaps be another category for non STEP mods? I will continue to work on this as soon as I have the correct permissions. All the best :) EDIT: What I can and will do I guess is to install new STEP CORE and Extended and test the weather pack and lighting with that and post screenies - something to do :)
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:33 AM

I think we may need a Pack Author designation for the wiki to grant permission to people for certain packs they are authors of. I think that the current system that only a few people can edit the main guide is proper and allows tech, z, and willy to maintain STEP quite well. With packs maybe whoever starts the pack becomes the one who edits that pack and that person can grant permission to others to edit that pack. It would help when we get to 2.3.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 02:22 PM

The wiki is very minimal as far as permissions so we can't really restrict pack editing to just the pack author. I'm still not sure why you're not able to move pages or create mod lists, I'll point Stopping to this thread and see if he can figure it out.
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#22 z929669

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 04:01 PM

RE permissions issues, I'll look into this and let you all know. EDIT: @ Smile44 See if you can move Pack pages now. I added a new user group to enable Pack edits and placed you in that. @Farlo To allow everyone this ability, I could also disable protection for Pack namespace ... Farlo, what do you think?

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 04:38 PM

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To allow everyone this ability, I could also disable protection for Pack namespace ... Farlo, what do you think?

How is it set up now? 

Personally I think we should keep it all open unless it becomes an issue.  Otherwise we'd have to manually set people to Pack Author and it either becomes a selective process, thus restricting who can create them based on our judgement, or it just ends up being busy work for us autoconfirming everyone.
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:38 PM

OK I can now make Edits, I have changed the name to Pack: Weather. I'm in the process of adding the mods to the modlist - I have had some trouble in that it doesn't seem to like mods that are not already in the mod archive (which makes sense) so am in the process of adding these. :)
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#25 Farlo

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 07:29 PM

OK I can now make Edits, I have changed the name to Pack: Weather. I'm in the process of adding the mods to the modlist - I have had some trouble in that it doesn't seem to like mods that are not already in the mod archive (which makes sense) so am in the process of adding these.

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That's purposeful.  Mods will need to be added to the wiki before they can be added to a pack.  Once everything is working the tables should show more than just the name and instructions.  In addition to listing DLC requirements and such, you'll be able to set which graphics option should be used via a dropdown list.
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Posted 30 September 2013 - 03:02 AM

Ok I filled in the table but am unable to save it for some reason - the preview looked great though. All new mods added to wiki mainly under 2.G. :)
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Posted 01 October 2013 - 11:58 AM

Table has saved now so it does seem do-able but not completely workable. Lighting part of this is currently saving yawn very slow but this thread is now technically SOLVED. :)
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Posted 02 October 2013 - 12:23 AM

The Semantic wiki is a bit slow due to i/o limitations and current config. I have no doubt that we will see much faster page loading for uncached pages very soon as we migrate to the new server. @Farlo Yes, I agree that we can open up the permissions for the Pack namespace. However, I'll do that once we have more activity. Hoping that we'll get an idea of how many are interested in helping out by requiring them to ask for permissions. We should create an announcement about this and sticky the info on this thread ... (settings are in LocalSettings)

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 05:01 AM

Actually I have tried to make edits to this and they will not save - the pack is up and working but I will still need to add Skyrim Particle Patch and some instruction changes. I have made links to it so that I can get some feedback as it stands now - but the pack form still needs some ironing out at least with respect to the saving issue and title issue, but otherwise it works well and is fairly intuitive. :)
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 03:44 AM

Actually I have tried to make edits to this and they will not save - the pack is up and working but I will still need to add Skyrim Particle Patch and some instruction changes.

I have made links to it so that I can get some feedback as it stands now - but the pack form still needs some ironing out at least with respect to the saving issue and title issue, but otherwise it works well and is fairly intuitive.

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Try again now ... also, be sure to use Page Tools > Edit With Form. Lastly, be sure that you are editing the Pack page (Pack:SomePack) and not the subpage (PackSomePack/SubPage). I just tested with a test account sharing your privileges, and there is no problem saving revisions to your Pack page.


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