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#1 frihyland

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:42 PM

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#2 LeetMiniWheat

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:51 PM

right clicking a .jar from within the filetree doesn't work properly, it doesn't set up the virtual directories and all. maybe wiki should be changed? and it seems no combination of java.exe, javaw.exe, or javaws.exe will run a .jar properly. I had to make a .bat file for all my .jar patchers. (Note: make the .bat files first and drop them in the mod directory before adding the new executable to MO otherwise it won't let you add it) Title: SkyBash Binary: C:/skyrim/ModOrganizer/mods/SkyBash 0-12/SkyProc Patchers/SkyBash/SkyBash.bat Start in: C:\skyrim\ModOrganizer\mods\SkyBash 0-12\SkyProc Patchers\SkyBash SkyBash.bat @ECHO OFF SET BINDIR=%~dp0 CD /D "%BINDIR% javaw -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar SkyBash.jar PAUSE Title: RePerkussion Binary: C:/skyrim/ModOrganizer/mods/X RePerkussion-Final/RePerkussion/RePerkussion.bat Start in: C:\skyrim\ModOrganizer\mods\X RePerkussion-Final\RePerkussion RePerkussion.bat @ECHO OFF SET BINDIR=%~dp0 CD /D "%BINDIR% javaw -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar RePerkussion.jar PAUSE I made these .bat's from copying ASIS.bat and changing the .jar name. Edit: also, I uninstalled all 64-bit javas I had installed so it would default to running 32-bit java since MO only supports 32-bit executables
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 02:52 PM

Also, ASIS seems to throw out an error. I think it's related to how Mod Organizer sets up it's file trees. There was an error exporting the custom patch. (..\..\Strings\ASIS_English.STRINGS (The system cannot find the path specified)) Please contact Leviathan1753 any ideas?
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:45 PM

okay ASIS's patcher doesn't like MO's virtual directory structure, it requires a manual install. here's what I had to do. 1. extract ASIS files to Skyrim\Data 2. load up Mod Organizer, put a checkbox next to ASIS-Dependency.esp on the ESPs list. 3. new executable under top right dropdown box named ASIS and point it to the ASIS.bat in /skyrim/Data/SkyProc Patchers/ASIS/ASIS.bat 4. run "ASIS" from Mod Organizer at top right drop-down box.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 04:03 PM

also, RePerkussion adds some new files that MO detects as a new mod, so after running it you have to close MO, then re-open MO and enable the new "strings" mod on the left pane. (also, if using with ASIS, run ASIS first, then RePerkussion) Edit: well okay here's my full steps for ASIS/RePerkussion/bashed patch/skybash patch 1. ran BOSS 2. manually put ASIS-dependency.esp and NPCPerked.esp at the end of the ESPs load order afterwards 3. regenerated bashed patch in wrye bash 4. enabled any disabled mods by Wrye Bash due to merging, ran SkyBash, then enabled "Bashed Patch, SkyProc.esp" (if you already have an ASIS.esp, make sure to disable it first before running SkyBash) 5. ran ASIS, then enabled ASIS.esp and put it last. 6. ran RePerkussion 7. closed MO, reopened it and enabled new "strings" mod on left pane, then reordered ESP's so the end was: Bashed Patch, SkyProc.esp ASIS.esp NPCPerked.esp (because ASIS.esp ended up last, but not 100% sure if this is correct, but I am sure RePerkussion needs to patch over ASIS so I assume ASIS.esp shuold be loaded before NPCPerked.esp) Edit: personally I'm just using SkyBash and ASIS now (in that order)
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 04:08 PM

though one thing I'm not sure of is where SkyBash's patch goes after running it because I don't see it in MO. this may be another patcher that has to be run outside of MO's virtual data directories Edit: yeah I'm not even totally sure SkyBash is working properly, I hope it is because Jaysus swords needs it's lists merged, and Wrye Bash isn't able to recognize it Edit2: disregard this post, it works. and jaysus swords is merged fine with wrye bash
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#7 frihyland

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 04:27 PM

In general any mod that contains files that are non default Skyrim formats are going to have issues with a Mod Manager, MO is a particular problem due to the virtual directory it uses. I can't really comment on specifics but in general installing manually to the real Skyrim directory without MO running seems like the only way to go for now. Need some input from Tannin here.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 04:35 PM

yeah well in the case of SkyBash, it makes a bashed patch just like Wrye Bash so it needs to see all the mods properly (which it does, but I just can't find where it's outputting it's patch to in MO) Edit: I guess in the meantime I'll disable any mods that Wrye Bash can't merge, until I figure out how to get SkyBash to merge properly with MO Edit2: disregard this post, it works and wrye bash can merge jswords' leveled list balancing thing
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 04:48 PM

Well if Wrye Bash works than there is a solution in place, just needs to get implemented for all Skyproc tools as well.
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:30 AM

Tannin may need to add a function to intercept calls for those types of programs, but agree need Tannin to comment
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 02:25 PM

Actually, SkyBash seems to be working now. I'm seeing "Bashed Patch, SkyProc.esp" in the ESPs list! (I must have missed it earlier) Edit: also, I edited my earlier post with steps to use SkyBash, ASIS, and RePerkussion together.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 01:25 PM

Sorry I guess this was the wrong thread to post questions/issues about Mod Organizer, I found the other thread here

Anyhow, the latest MO beta fixes the ASIS issues. The patcher runs great now :) (Thanks tannin42/Ethatron!)


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#13 frihyland

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 02:44 AM

Sorry I guess this was the wrong thread to post questions/issues about Mod Organizer, I found the other thread here

Anyhow, the latest MO beta fixes the ASIS issues. The patcher runs great now :) (Thanks tannin42/Ethatron!)
This is the thread for the Official MO wiki site, so anything discussed their is appropriate as well as stuff you would like to see covered there.
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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:09 PM

first off...  i LOVE mod organizer!! so easy, and separates everything.. incredible job!! second,  i was viewing some threads the other day, and thought 'hmm what if MO would make a txt list of some kind that u can just copy and post into a forum. list of mods installed or installed per profile? possible?
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Posted 04 November 2012 - 05:17 PM

I use MO with BOSS to create a list of the esm/esps I have when necessary. Other than that I don't think its possible to get MO to create an installed list.
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