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#16 redirishlord

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 01:42 PM

Oh, my bad, IA was added in the last 5 minutes my observations were made previous to that (dangers of cutting and pasting). Of course maybe I've just been lucky, or I'm not Jon's type?


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 01:49 PM

I don't think Wrye Bash has been fully updated to use the LOOT masterlist. It isn't applying bash tags properly as of yet. I'm thinking it is IA as well that gives me issues.



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 01:57 PM

I'll watch for public nudity in Whiterun later tonight now that I have IA installed, if I spot any that might confirm your theory that its IA.


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 06:16 PM

I don't have naked NPCs, but I always manually check by Bashed Patch to make sure it didn't error.



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 06:32 PM

I don't have naked NPCs, but I always manually check by Bashed Patch to make sure it didn't error.

Where do I find the tutorial on doing that? :-)


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 09:02 PM

So far, the two I've run into are Jon Battleborn and Hermir Strong-Heart (found at the forge in Windhelm). I'll rebuild my bash patch with Delev on AMB Content Addon to see if that fixes it. I'm running pure STEP so I don't have IA installed.



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 09:18 PM

Adding Delev and Relev didn't fix it. I ran around a bit more and found these:

 

Helgrid (Windhelm)

Danica Pure-Spring (Whiterun)

Heimskr (Whiterun...he's the preacher shouting in front of the statue)

Jon Battle-Born is missing his boots.



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 09:21 PM

That makes me think something is tagged Delev that shouldn't be.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 09:27 PM

Is there a way to save the LOOT report so I can check it again what WB is tagging to ensure all the mods are being tagged as LOOT says they should be?



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 09:29 PM

Copy and paste to notepad?


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 09:31 PM

Copy and paste to notepad?

Crude...but it worked.



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 09:46 PM

:thumbsup:  I'm all about crude.


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 09:46 PM

The only questionable item I found was Non-essential Children. LOOT reports this:

 

NonEssentialChildren.esp
CRC: BAE841DB
[color=#ffd700;][object Object][/color]
 
WB applies the Delev tag to it.
 
Everything else checked out according to the LOOT report.


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 09:50 PM

Interesting, I do not install NEC, and I haven't noticed the random nakedness. You might be on to something if you all have that mod in common.

 

Edit: Well, I went from problem free to naked Jon Battle-born acosting Bannered Mare patrons after installing Immersive Armors, so I'm thinking IA's definitely a contributing factor (or Hulda's making the drinks to strong).


Edited by redirishlord, 22 July 2014 - 11:25 PM.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 06:56 PM

I see where you get that, Red, but I know at least one other person besides myself seeing this issue who DON'T have IA installed. Jon Battle Born, the lady blasksmith in Windhelm, and Kust (?) in Falkreath are the only ones I can name for certain. I haven't started a new game to test if the DeLev ReLev on the Add on fixes it or not.

 

So, basic troubleshooting thinking here.

 

1) We know it HAD to be something in the 2.2.9 update that causes this, simply because we didn't see it prior to the update.

2) Our first candidate, the Addon Content bash tags, have produces mixed results, or at least inconclusive ones. This leads me to thinking this is not it.

3) IA, though a non-Step mod was brought up as a possible, and I think we can discount that since a number of people who are seeing the bug do not use this mod.

 

At this point, I think we look at other large-scale clothing or armor related mods. The two that jump to mind are (as mentioned earlier) CCOR and POSSIBLY (random neuron firing here) the Clothing Fixes mod that was added.

 

I say CCOR first because I was changing my load order as the un-official guide was being updated. I am pretty certain I saw this when CCOR and the Better Males mods were added into that. I discount the Better Males mod based on the lady blacksmith in Windhelm and a random Forsworn I saw out in the Reach. I don't know TES5Edit well enough, nor WB for that matter, to even be able to check these, but given the scale of what CCOR does, and as much as I hate to say it, this has to be my number one suspect for the moment.

 

THoughts?


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