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Mods without .esp files aren't loading (example, Darnified UI)


BishyT

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I've been encountering some issues recently with Mod Organizer when it comes to mods that don't use/require .esp files.

For example, Darnified UI 132 (.7z version) doesn't use an esp file, as it's intended to be used as a replacer.

Then there are body replacers like Robert's Male Body and HGEC. Although they include .esp files, they're not nessecarily needed, and it's also recommended that the .esp files not be used alongside Oblivion Character Overhaul v2 to avoid conflicts.

 

Anyways, i'm using the Steam version of Oblivion GOTY with OBSE. I know that OBSE is working because Blockhead works (allowing me to move the camera about in chargen). I know that the Mod Organizer OBSE hook is working, as Oblivion Character Overhaul v2 will work.

 

However, neither Darnified UI nor the body replacers i'm using have any effect, and the only thing they have in common is that they're not using .esp files.

 

Has anyone else experienced this problem? I'm using the latest version of MO, 1.2.11.

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I believe I do. There's even a "Oblivion - Invalidation.bsa" file in the Archives tab.

 

Ok, I fixed the problem halfway through typing this message. I went to the workarounds screen and pressed the "Back-date BSAs" button, and now Darnified UI seems to be working (haven't tested the body mods yet, but i'm assuming they'll work too). It seems that the Archive Invalidation wasn't working as intended and needed a little extra push.

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...exactly the same problem with me, and fixed with the work-around.  Is the Automatic Archive Invalidation flag supposed to stay checked permanently?  I check it, run the game and return to MO to find the flag is un-checked.  I even check it, quit MO, restart MO, check to see the flag is checked (it is) and then run the game.  It is always unchecked when I return to MO (I don't close MO while the game is running).

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...exactly the same problem with me, and fixed with the work-around.  Is the Automatic Archive Invalidation flag supposed to stay checked permanently?  I check it, run the game and return to MO to find the flag is un-checked.  I even check it, quit MO, restart MO, check to see the flag is checked (it is) and then run the game.  It is always unchecked when I return to MO (I don't close MO while the game is running).

I think this may actually be a bug with the way MO handles the Oblivion engine.

I can verify your findings. No manner in which way I set the flag, Automatic Archive Invalidation is always disabled when returning to MO from Oblivion. Fallout3/NV which also use this method do not have that flag reset.

Curiously I see that MO managed Oblivion for me has all the Bethesda bsa files as standard files in theArchives tab, ie. they are not greyed out as they are with Skyrim or Fallout3/NV.

 

To be honest, I have not the faintest idea of how MO's Automatic Archive Invalidation works, but it does strike me as strange the difference in behaviour with Oblivion to the other two games that use it.

 

Additionally I have noticed that the Oblivion bsa files are not shown as essential, ie. greyed out, and can therefore be deactivated. This would render the game unplayable. All other games have the bsa files used by the main *.esm files as essential and greyed out, untouchable by the user.

 

I have posted a bug report.

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can you take the archive invalidation from TesModManager and see if that works.

I remember when I was trying MO with Oblivion the one that was included didn't really work because it would cause a crash at startup with a cleaned version of orrey or some other DLC

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As far as I can tell the TMM bsa is just an empty file as is the one from MO. The original Archive Invalidation from Quarn actually had a dummy *.dds file in it and needed to manually add that file to the list.

I'm assuming MO magically adds this listing to the ini during runtime because the actual ini doesn't contain any bsa to the [Archive] list. I'm not even sure now if that needs to the case with MO.

It's been so long now that I have forgotten what goes wrong if you don't have AI enabled.

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Are you sure you have installed DarkUI correctly and it is enabled in the left-hand pane?

 

Am I sure it's installed correctly? No. I tried installing both the manual install file though MO and the omod (installing through TMM run in MO and then making a new mod from the Override folder). I did make the changes to Oblivion.ini that the mod description says to make. Running the game after installing the manual file allowed the game to run, but I didn't have the correct UI. (It was the vanilla UI.) Trying to run the game after installing the omod caused a CTD before the Bethesda video started.

 

It is active in the left pane.

 

 

Perhaps if you provide your modlist.txt or other diagnostic material for us to examine.

 

Here's my modlist.txt

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

+DarkUId DarN

-Ayleid Arcane Archery

-Dark Arts of The Left-Hand Path

-New Races- Dremora Sheogorath Dark Seducer Golden Saint

-Optional Persuasion Minigame Add-on

+Unofficial Oblivion DLC Patches

-EWIs True Weaponry of Viscounts and Sirrahs

-NifSE v1 1 Release

-madgod powers

-Hotkey Wheel Add-On

-Elder Magic

-Dark Imperial Watch Armor

+Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch

+Unofficial Oblivion Patch

-Realistic Leveling

-Quest Award Leveller

-MiniMap v1x2x0

-MenuQue v16b

-Map Marker Overhaul

-Kvatch Rebuilt

-Harry Potter Magic

-Escape From Prison

-DarkUI Recolored

-Dark UI Supplemental Pack

-Custom Autosave

*Unmanaged: DLCBattlehornCastle

*Unmanaged: DLCFrostcrag

*Unmanaged: DLCHorseArmor

*Unmanaged: DLCMehrunesRazor

*Unmanaged: DLCOrrery

*Unmanaged: DLCShiveringIsles

*Unmanaged: DLCSpellTomes

*Unmanaged: DLCThievesDen

*Unmanaged: DLCVileLair

*Unmanaged: Knights

 

My plugins.txt

 

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

Oblivion.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

Dark-DarN UI does not make an esp, which is why it does not show up above.

 

My Oblivion.ini

 

 

[General]

SStartingCell=

 

SStartingCellY=

SStartingCellX=

SStartingWorld=

 

STestFile10=

STestFile9=

STestFile8=

STestFile7=

STestFile6=

STestFile5=

STestFile4=

STestFile3=

STestFile2=

STestFile1=

 

bEnableProfile=0

bDrawSpellContact=0

bRunMiddleLowLevelProcess=1

iHoursToSleep=3

bActorLookWithHavok=0

SMainMenuMusicTrack=special\tes4title.mp3

bUseEyeEnvMapping=1

bFixFaceNormals=0

bUseFaceGenHeads=1

bFaceMipMaps=1

bFaceGenTexturing=1

bDefaultCOCPlacement=0

uGridDistantTreeRange=15

uGridDistantCount=25

uGridsToLoad=5

fGlobalTimeMultiplier=1.0000

bNewAnimation=1

fAnimationDefaultBlend=0.1000

fAnimationMult=1.0000

bFixAIPackagesOnLoad=0

bForceReloadOnEssentialCharacterDeath=1

bKeepPluginWhenMerging=0

bCreate Maps Enable=0

SLocalSavePath=Saves\

SLocalMasterPath=Data\

bDisableDuplicateReferenceCheck=1

bTintMipMaps=0

uInterior Cell Buffer=3

uExterior Cell Buffer=36

iIntroSequencePriority=3

bPreloadIntroSequence=1

fStaticScreenWaitTime=3.0000

SCreditsMenuMovie=CreditsMenu.bik

SMainMenuMovie=Map loop.bik

SMainMenuMovieIntro=Oblivion iv logo.bik

SIntroSequence=bethesda softworks HD720p.bik,2k games.bik,game studios.bik,Oblivion Legal.bik

iFPSClamp=0

bRunVTuneTest=0

STestFile1=

bActivateAllQuestScripts=0

fQuestScriptDelayTime=5.0000

SMainMenuMusic=Special\TES4Title.mp3

bUseThreadedBlood=0

bUseThreadedMorpher=0

bExternalLODDataFiles=1

bBorderRegionsEnabled=1

bDisableHeadTracking=0

bTrackAllDeaths=0

SCharGenQuest=0002466E

uiFaceGenMaxEGTDataSize=67108864

uiFaceGenMaxEGMDataSize=67108864

SBetaCommentFileName=

bCheckCellOffsetsOnInit=0

bCreateShaderPackage=0

uGridDistantTreeRangeCity=4

uGridDistantCountCity=4

bWarnOnMissingFileEntry=0

iSaveGameBackupCount=1

bDisplayMissingContentDialogue=1

SSaveGameSafeCellID=2AEEA

bAllowScriptedAutosave=1

bPreemptivelyUnloadCells=0

bCheckIDsOnInit=0

iNumBitsForFullySeen=248

iPreloadSizeLimit=26214400

SOblivionIntro=OblivionIntro.bik

bUseHardDriveCache=0

bEnableBoundingVolumeOcclusion=0

bDisplayBoundingVolumes=0

bUseThreadedTempEffects=0

bUseThreadedParticleSystem=0

bUseMyGamesDirectory=1

 

 

[Display]

uVideoDeviceIdentifierPart1=3619102270

uVideoDeviceIdentifierPart2=298799872

uVideoDeviceIdentifierPart3=536896432

uVideoDeviceIdentifierPart4=902677006

fDecalLifetime=10.0

bEquippedTorchesCastShadows=0

bReportBadTangentSpace=0

bStaticMenuBackground=1

bForcePow2Textures=0

bForce1XShaders=0

bHighQuality20Lighting=0

bAllow20HairShader=1

bAllowScreenShot=0

iMultiSample=0

bDoTallGrassEffect=1

bForceMultiPass=1

bDoTexturePass=1

bDoSpecularPass=1

bDoDiffusePass=1

bDoAmbientPass=1

bDoCanopyShadowPass=0

bDrawShadows=0

bUseRefractionShader=1

bUse Shaders=1

iNPatchNOrder=0

iNPatchPOrder=0

iNPatches=0

iLocation Y=0

iLocation X=0

bFull Screen=1

iSize W=640

iSize H=480

iAdapter=0

iScreenShotIndex=0

SScreenShotBaseName=ScreenShot

iAutoViewMinDistance=2000

iAutoViewHiFrameRate=40

iAutoViewLowFrameRate=20

bAutoViewDistance=0

fDefaultFOV=75.0000

fNearDistance=10.0000

fFarDistance=10000.0000

iDebugTextLeftRightOffset=10

iDebugTextTopBottomOffset=10

bShowMenuTextureUse=1

iDebugText=2

blocalmapshader=0

bDoImageSpaceEffects=1

fShadowLOD2=400.0000

fShadowLOD1=200.0000

fLightLOD2=1500.0000

fLightLOD1=1000.0000

fSpecularLOD2=800.0

fSpecularLOD1=500.0

fEnvMapLOD2=800.0000

fEnvMapLOD1=500.0000

fEyeEnvMapLOD2=190.0000

fEyeEnvMapLOD1=130.0000

iPresentInterval=1

iShadowFilter=1

iActorShadowCountExt=1

iActorShadowCountInt=2

bActorSelfShadowing=0

bShadowsOnGrass=0

bDynamicWindowReflections=0

iTexMipMapSkip=1

fGrassStartFadeDistance=0.0

fGrassEndDistance=0.0

bDecalsOnSkinnedGeometry=0

bFullBrightLighting=0

iMaxLandscapeTextures=0

bLODPopActors=0

bLODPopItems=0

bLODPopObjects=0

fSpecualrStartMax=1000.0000

fSpecularStartMin=0.0000

iActorShadowIntMax=10

iActorShadowIntMin=0

iActorShadowExtMax=10

iActorShadowExtMin=0

fGammaMax=0.6000

fGammaMin=1.4000

iMaxDecalsPerFrame=10

bLandscapeBlend=1

fShadowFadeTime=1.0000

fGamma=1.0000

bAllowPartialPrecision=1

iShadowMapResolution=256

bAllow30Shaders=0

iTexMipMapMinimum=0

bDoStaticAndArchShadows=0

bDoActorShadows=1

bIgnoreResolutionCheck=0

fNoLODFarDistancePct=1.0000

fNoLODFarDistanceMax=10240.0000

fNoLODFarDistanceMin=1700.0000

 

 

 

[Controls]

fVersion=1.8000

Forward=0011FFFF

Back=001FFFFF

Slide Left=001EFFFF

Slide Right=0020FFFF

Use=00FF00FF

Activate=0039FFFF

Block=003801FF

Cast=002EFFFF

Ready Item=0021FFFF

Crouch/Sneak=001DFFFF

Run=002AFFFF

Always Run=003AFFFF

Auto Move=0010FFFF

Jump=0012FFFF

Toggle POV=001302FF

Menu Mode=000FFFFF

Rest=0014FFFF

Quick Menu=003BFFFF

Quick1=0002FFFF

Quick2=0003FFFF

Quick3=0004FFFF

Quick4=0005FFFF

Quick5=0006FFFF

Quick6=0007FFFF

Quick7=0008FFFF

Quick8=0009FFFF

QuickSave=003FFFFF

QuickLoad=0043FFFF

Grab=002CFFFF

bInvertYValues=0

fXenonLookXYMult=0.0005

fMouseSensitivity=0.0020

;X = 1, Y = 2, Z = 3, XRot = 4, YRot = 5, ZRot = 6

iJoystickMoveFrontBack=2

iJoystickMoveLeftRight=1

fJoystickMoveFBMult=1.0000

fJoystickMoveLRMult=1.0000

iJoystickLookUpDown=6

iJoystickLookLeftRight=3

fJoystickLookUDMult=0.0020

fJoystickLookLRMult=0.0020

fXenonMenuMouseXYMult=0.0003

bBackground Mouse=0

bBackground Keyboard=0

bUse Joystick=1

fXenonLookMult=0.0030

fXenonMenuStickSpeedMaxMod=5.0000

iXenonMenuStickSpeedThreshold=20000

iXenonMenuStickThreshold=1000

;Language values: 0-English, 1-German, 2-French, 3-Spanish, 4-Italian

iLanguage=0

SlideLeft=001EFFFF

SlideRight=0020FFFF

fXenonMenuStickMapCursorMinSpeed=1.0000

fXenonMenuStickMapCursorMaxSpeed=15.0000

fXenonMenuStickMapCursorGamma=0.1700

fXenonMenuStickSpeedPlayerRotMod=3000.0000

fXenonMenuDpadRepeatSpeed=300.0000

fXenonMenuStickSpeed=300.0000

iXenonMenuStickDeadZone=15000

 

 

[Water]

fAlpha=0.5000

uSurfaceTextureSize=128

SSurfaceTexture=water

SNearWaterOutdoorID=NearWaterOutdoorLoop

SNearWaterIndoorID=NearWaterIndoorLoop

fNearWaterOutdoorTolerance=1024.0000

fNearWaterIndoorTolerance=512.0000

fNearWaterUnderwaterVolume=0.9000

fNearWaterUnderwaterFreq=0.3000

uNearWaterPoints=8

uNearWaterRadius=1000

uSurfaceFrameCount=32

uSurfaceFPS=12

bUseWaterReflectionsMisc=0

bUseWaterReflectionsStatics=0

bUseWaterReflectionsTrees=0

bUseWaterReflectionsActors=0

bUseWaterReflections=0

bUseWaterHiRes=0

bUseWaterDisplacements=0

bUseWaterShader=1

uDepthRange=125

bUseWaterDepth=1

bUseWaterLOD=1

fTileTextureDivisor=4.7500

fSurfaceTileSize=2048.0000

uNumDepthGrids=3

 

[Audio]

bDSoundHWAcceleration=1

fMinSoundVel=10.0000

fMetalLargeMassMin=25.0000

fMetalMediumMassMin=8.0000

fStoneLargeMassMin=30.0000

fStoneMediumMassMin=5.0000

fWoodLargeMassMin=15.0000

fWoodMediumMassMin=7.0000

fDialogAttenuationMax=35.0000

fDialogAttenuationMin=7.7500

bUseSoundDebugInfo=1

fUnderwaterFrequencyDelta=0.0000

bUseSoftwareAudio3D=0

fDefaultEffectsVolume=0.8000

fDefaultMusicVolume=0.3000

fDefaultFootVolume=0.8000

fDefaultVoiceVolume=0.8000

fDefaultMasterVolume=1.0000

bMusicEnabled=1

bSoundEnabled=1

fLargeWeaponWeightMin=25.0000

fMediumWeaponWeightMin=8.0000

fSkinLargeMassMin=30.0000

fSkinMediumMassMin=5.0000

fChainLargeMassMin=30.0000

fChainMediumMassMin=5.0000

fDBVoiceAttenuationIn2D=0.0000

iCollisionSoundTimeDelta=50

fGlassLargeMassMin=25.0000

fGlassMediumMassMin=8.0000

fClothLargeMassMin=25.0000

fClothMediumMassMin=8.0000

fEarthLargeMassMin=30.0000

fEarthMediumMassMin=5.0000

bUseSpeedForWeaponSwish=1

fLargeWeaponSpeedMax=0.9500

fMediumWeaponSpeedMax=1.1000

fPlayerFootVolume=0.9000

fDSoundRolloffFactor=4.0000

fMaxFootstepDistance=1100.0000

fHeadroomdB=2.0000

iMaxImpactSoundCount=32

fMainMenuMusicVolume=0.6000

 

 

[shockBolt]

bDebug=0

fGlowColorB=1.0000

fGlowColorG=0.6000

fGlowColorR=0.0000

fCoreColorB=1.0000

fCoreColorG=1.0000

fCoreColorR=1.0000

fCastVOffset=-10.0000

iNumBolts=7

fBoltGrowWidth=1.0000

fBoltSmallWidth=3.0000

fTortuosityVariance=8.0000

fSegmentVariance=35.0000

fBoltsRadius=24.0000

 

[Pathfinding]

bDrawPathsDefault=0

bPathMovementOnly=0

bDrawSmoothFailures=0

bDebugSmoothing=0

bSmoothPaths=1

bSnapToAngle=0

bDebugAvoidance=0

bDisableAvoidance=0

bBackgroundPathing=0

bUseBackgroundPathing=1

 

[MAIN]

bEnableBorderRegion=1

fLowPerfCombatantVoiceDistance=1000.0000

iDetectionHighNumPicks=40

fQuestScriptDelayTime=5.0000

iLastHDRSetting=-1

 

 

[Combat]

bEnableBowZoom=1

bDebugCombatAvoidance=0

fMinBloodDamage=1.0000

fHitVectorDelay=0.4000

iShowHitVector=0

fLowPerfNPCTargetLOSTimer=1.0000

fHiPerfNPCTargetLOSTimer=0.5000

iMaxHiPerfNPCTargetCount=4

fLowPerfPCTargetLOSTimer=0.5000

fHiPerfPCTargetLOSTimer=0.2500

iMaxHiPerfPCTargetCount=4

iMaxHiPerfCombatCount=4

 

 

[HAVOK]

bDisablePlayerCollision=0

fJumpAnimDelay=0.7500

bTreeTops=0

iSimType=1

bPreventHavokAddAll=0

bPreventHavokAddClutter=0

fMaxTime=0.0167

bHavokDebug=0

fRF=1000.0000

fOD=0.9000

fSE=0.3000

fSD=0.9800

iResetCounter=5

fMoveLimitMass=95.0000

iUpdateType=0

bHavokPick=0

fCameraCasterSize=1.0000

iHavokSkipFrameCountTEST=0

fHorseRunGravity=3.0000

fQuadrupedPitchMult=1.0000

iNumHavokThreads=1

fChaseDeltaMult=0.0500

iEntityBatchRemoveRate=100

iMaxPicks=40

bAddBipedWhenKeyframed=0

 

 

[interface]

fDlgLookMult=0.3000

fDlgLookAdj=0.0000

fDlgLookDegStop=0.2000

fDlgLookDegStart=2.0000

fDlgFocus=2.1000

fKeyRepeatInterval=50.0000

fKeyRepeatTime=500.0000

fActivatePickSphereRadius=16.0000

fMenuModeAnimBlend=0.0000

iSafeZoneX=20

iSafeZoneY=20

iSafeZoneXWide=20

iSafeZoneYWide=20

fMenuPlayerLightDiffuseBlue=0.8000

fMenuPlayerLightDiffuseGreen=0.8000

fMenuPlayerLightDiffuseRed=0.8000

fMenuPlayerLightAmbientBlue=0.2500

fMenuPlayerLightAmbientGreen=0.2500

fMenuPlayerLightAmbientRed=0.2500

bAllowConsole=1

bActivatePickUseGamebryoPick=0

iMaxViewCasterPicksGamebryo=10

iMaxViewCasterPicksHavok=10

iMaxViewCasterPicksFuzzy=5

bUseFuzzyPicking=1

fMenuBGBlurRadius=2.0000

 

[LoadingBar]

iMoveBarWaitingMilliseconds=10

iMoveBarChaseMilliseconds=100

iMoveBarMaxMilliseconds=2500

fLoadingSlideDelay=15.0000

fPercentageOfBar3=0.1500

fPercentageOfBar2=0.4400

fPercentageOfBar1=0.3500

fPercentageOfBar0=0.0600

bShowSectionTimes=0

 

[Menu]

fCreditsScrollSpeed=40.0000

iConsoleTextYPos=890

iConsoleTextXPos=30

iConsoleVisibleLines=15

iConsoleHistorySize=50

rDebugTextColor=255,251,233

iConsoleFont=3

iDebugTextFont=3

 

 

 

[GamePlay]

bDisableDynamicCrosshair=0

bSaveOnTravel=1

bSaveOnWait=1

bSaveOnRest=1

bCrossHair=1

iDifficultyLevel=50

bGeneralSubtitles=0

bDialogueSubtitles=1

bInstantLevelUp=0

bHealthBarShowing=0

fHealthBarFadeOutSpeed=1.0000

fHealthBarSpeed=80.0000

fHealthBarHeight=4.0000

fHealthBarWidth=40.0000

fHealthBarEmittanceFadeTime=0.5000

fHealthBarEmittanceTime=1.5000

STrackLevelUpPath=\\vault\TES4\LevelData\

fDifficulty=0.0000

bTrackLevelUps=1

bAllowHavokGrabTheLiving=0

bEssentialTakeNoDamage=1

iDetectionPicks=21

bSaveOnInteriorExteriorSwitch=1

 

 

[Fonts]

sfontfile_1=Data\Fonts\DarN_FantaisieArtistique_28.fnt

sfontfile_2=Data\Fonts\DarN_LG_Kingthings_Petrock_14.fnt

sfontfile_3=Data\Fonts\DarN_LG_Kingthings_Petrock_18.fnt

sfontfile_4=Data\Fonts\DarN_Oblivion_28.fnt

SFontFile_5=Data\Fonts\Handwritten.fnt

 

[speedTree]

iTreeClonesAllowed=1

fCanopyShadowGrassMult=1.0000

iCanopyShadowScale=512

fTreeForceMaxBudAngle=-1.0000

fTreeForceMinBudAngle=-1.0000

fTreeForceLeafDimming=-1.0000

fTreeForceBranchDimming=-1.0000

fTreeForceCS=-1.0000

fTreeForceLLA=-1.0000

fTreeLODExponent=1.0000

bEnableTrees=1

bForceFullLOD=0

fLODTreeMipMapLODBias=-0.7500

fLocalTreeMipMapLODBias=-0.2500

 

 

[Debug]

bDebugFaceGenCriticalSection=0

bDebugFaceGenMultithreading=0

bDebugSaveBuffer=0

 

 

[backgroundLoad]

bBackgroundLoadLipFiles=0

bLoadBackgroundFaceGen=0

bUseMultiThreadedFaceGen=1

bBackgroundCellLoads=1

bLoadHelmetsInBackground=1

iAnimationClonePerLoop=5

bSelectivePurgeUnusedOnFastTravel=0

bUseMultiThreadedTrees=1

iPostProcessMillisecondsEditor=50

iPostProcessMillisecondsLoadingQueuedPriority=20

iPostProcessMilliseconds=5

bUseBackgroundFileLoader=0

 

 

[LOD]

fLodDistance=500.0000

bUseFaceGenLOD=0

iLODTextureTiling=2

iLODTextureSizePow2=8

fLODNormalTextureBlend=0.5000

bDisplayLODLand=1

bDisplayLODBuildings=1

bDisplayLODTrees=0

bLODPopTrees=0

bLODPopActors=0

bLODPopItems=0

bLODPopObjects=0

fLODFadeOutMultActors=5.0000

fLODFadeOutMultItems=2.0000

fLODFadeOutMultObjects=5.0000

fLODMultLandscape=1.0000

fLODMultTrees=0.5

fLODMultActors=5.0

fLODMultItems=5.0

fLODMultObjects=5.0

iFadeNodeMinNearDistance=400

fLODFadeOutPercent=0.9000

fLODBoundRadiusMult=3.0000

fTalkingDistance=2000.0000

 

fTreeLODMax=2.0000

fTreeLODMin=0.0200

fTreeLODDefault=1.2000

fObjectLODMax=15.0000

fObjectLODMin=1.0000

fObjectLODDefault=5.0000

fItemLODMax=15.0000

fItemLODMin=1.0000

fItemLODDefault=2.0000

fActorLODMax=15.0000

fActorLODMin=2.0000

fActorLODDefault=5.0000

bLODUseCombinedLandNormalMaps=1

bForceHideLODLand=0

fLODQuadMinLoadDistance=65536.0000

fLODFadeOutActorMultInterior=1.0000

fLODFadeOutItemMultInterior=1.0000

fLODFadeOutObjectMultInterior=1.0000

fLODFadeOutActorMultCity=1.0000

fLODFadeOutItemMultCity=1.0000

fLODFadeOutObjectMultCity=1.0000

fLODFadeOutActorMultComplex=1.0000

fLODFadeOutItemMultComplex=1.0000

fLODFadeOutObjectMultComplex=1.0000

fLODLandVerticalBias=0.0000

 

[Weather]

fSunGlareSize=350.0000

fSunBaseSize=250.0000

bPrecipitation=1

fAlphaReduce=1.0000

SBumpFadeColor=255,255,255,255

SLerpCloseColor=255,255,255,255

SEnvReduceColor=255,255,255,255

 

[Voice]

SFileTypeLTF=ltf

SFileTypeLip=lip

SFileTypeSource=wav

SFileTypeGame=mp3

 

 

[Grass]

iMinGrassSize=80

fGrassEndDistance=3000.0000

fGrassStartFadeDistance=2000.0000

bGrassPointLighting=0

bDrawShaderGrass=1

iGrassDensityEvalSize=2

iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=2

fWaveOffsetRange=1.7500

fGrassWindMagnitudeMax=125.0000

fGrassWindMagnitudeMin=5.0000

fTexturePctThreshold=0.3000

 

[Landscape]

bCurrentCellOnly=0

bPreventSafetyCheck=0

fLandTextureTilingMult=2.0000

fLandFriction=2.5000

iLandBorder2B=0

iLandBorder2G=0

iLandBorder2R=0

iLandBorder1B=0

iLandBorder1G=255

iLandBorder1R=255

 

 

[bLightAttenuation]

fQuadraticRadiusMult=1.0000

fLinearRadiusMult=1.0000

bOutQuadInLin=0

fConstantValue=0.0000

fQuadraticValue=16.0000

fLinearValue=3.0000

uQuadraticMethod=2

uLinearMethod=1

fFlickerMovement=8.0000

bUseQuadratic=1

bUseLinear=0

bUseConstant=0

 

 

[blurShaderHDRInterior]

fTargetLUM=1.0000

fUpperLUMClamp=1.0000

fEmissiveHDRMult=1.0000

fEyeAdaptSpeed=0.5000

fBrightScale=2.2500

fBrightClamp=0.2250

fBlurRadius=7.0000

iNumBlurpasses=1

 

 

[blurShaderHDR]

fTargetLUM=1.2000

fUpperLUMClamp=1.0000

fGrassDimmer=1.3000

fTreeDimmer=1.2000

fEmissiveHDRMult=1.0000

fEyeAdaptSpeed=0.7000

fSunlightDimmer=1.3000

fSIEmmisiveMult=1.0000

fSISpecularMult=1.0000

fSkyBrightness=0.5000

fSunBrightness=0.0000

fBrightScale=1.5000

fBrightClamp=0.3500

fBlurRadius=4.0000

iNumBlurpasses=2

iBlendType=2

bDoHighDynamicRange=0

 

 

[blurShader]

fSunlightDimmer=1.0000

fSIEmmisiveMult=1.0000

fSISpecularMult=1.0000

fSkyBrightness=0.5000

fSunBrightness=0.0000

fAlphaAddExterior=0.2000

fAlphaAddInterior=0.5000

iBlurTexSize=256

fBlurRadius=0.0300

iNumBlurpasses=1

iBlendType=2

bUseBlurShader=1

 

 

[GethitShader]

fBlurAmmount=0.5000

fBlockedTexOffset=0.0010

fHitTexOffset=0.0050

[MESSAGES]

bBlockMessageBoxes=0

bSkipProgramFlows=1

bAllowYesToAll=1

bDisableWarning=1

iFileLogging=0

bSkipInitializationFlows=1

[DistantLOD]

bUseLODLandData=0

fFadeDistance=12288.0000

iDistantLODGroupWidth=8

[GeneralWarnings]

SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

 

SMasterMismatchWarning=One of the files that "%s" is dependent on has changed since the last save.

This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message

but not necessarily fix any errors.

 

[Archive]

SMasterMiscArchiveFileName=Oblivion - Misc.bsa

SMasterVoicesArchiveFileName2=Oblivion - Voices2.bsa

SMasterVoicesArchiveFileName1=Oblivion - Voices1.bsa

SMasterSoundsArchiveFileName=Oblivion - Sounds.bsa

SMasterTexturesArchiveFileName1=Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa

SMasterMeshesArchiveFileName=Oblivion - Meshes.bsa

SInvalidationFile=

iRetainFilenameOffsetTable=1

iRetainFilenameStringTable=1

iRetainDirectoryStringTable=1

bCheckRuntimeCollisions=0

bInvalidateOlderFiles=1

bUseArchives=1

SArchiveList=Oblivion - Meshes.bsa, Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa, Oblivion - Sounds.bsa, Oblivion - Voices1.bsa, Oblivion - Voices2.bsa, Oblivion - Misc.bsa

SResourceArchiveList=Oblivion - Invalidation.bsa

[CameraPath]

iTake=0

SDirectoryName=TestCameraPath

iFPS=60

SNif=Test\CameraPath.nif

[Absorb]

fAbsorbGlowColorB=1.0000

fAbsorbGlowColorG=0.6000

fAbsorbGlowColorR=0.0000

fAbsorbCoreColorB=1.0000

fAbsorbCoreColorG=1.0000

fAbsorbCoreColorR=1.0000

iAbsorbNumBolts=1

fAbsorbBoltGrowWidth=0.0000

fAbsorbBoltSmallWidth=7.0000

fAbsorbTortuosityVariance=2.0000

fAbsorbSegmentVariance=7.0000

fAbsorbBoltsRadius=5.0000

[OPENMP]

iThreads=3

iOpenMPLevel=10

[TestAllCells]

bFileShowTextures=1

bFileShowIcons=1

bFileSkipIconChecks=0

bFileTestLoad=0

bFileNeededMessage=1

bFileGoneMessage=1

bFileSkipModelChecks=0

bFileCheckModelCollision=0

[CopyProtectionStrings]

SCopyProtectionMessage2=Insert the Oblivion Disc.

SCopyProtectionTitle2=Oblivion Disc Not Found

SCopyProtectionMessage=Unable to find a CD-ROM/DVD drive on this computer.

SCopyProtectionTitle=CD-ROM Drive Not Found

 

 

Not sure if it matters, but I run the Steam version of Oblivion.

 

You are using the latest 1.3.11 version of MO?

 

Yes.

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The manual version of the file works just fine with MO.

Trying to install it should invoke the MO Bain installer where you will need to make your choices as to which elements to install, if you are unsure which options to pick perhaps unpack the archive first in explorer and look through the 'readme'.

 

Using MO means you no longer need to make the font changes in the oblivion.ini just use the INI Tweaks that the installer sets up.

 

So since you have a bare minimum active at the moment it looks good to go.

Just to make sure there isn't something else going on. Order you mods in the left-hand pane, so that the Unofficial patches follow immediately after the DLC they are for and then make sure the BSAs are managed by MO, you have Archive Invalidation checked and the actual BSAs are enabled in the 'Archives' tab.

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The manual version of the file works just fine with MO.

Trying to install it should invoke the MO Bain installer where you will need to make your choices as to which elements to install, if you are unsure which options to pick perhaps unpack the archive first in explorer and look through the 'readme'.

 

Huh. That insn't happening. All I'm getting is the pop-up window to name the mod. I've had other mods that use the Bain installer, so I know what it looks like.

 

 

 

Using MO means you no longer need to make the font changes in the oblivion.ini just use the INI Tweaks that the installer sets up.

 

That didn't happen. I had to go in and make the changes myself.

 

 

 

Just to make sure there isn't something else going on. Order you mods in the left-hand pane, so that the Unofficial patches follow immediately after the DLC they are for and then make sure the BSAs are managed by MO, you have Archive Invalidation checked and the actual BSAs are enabled in the 'Archives' tab.

 

I'm pretty sure I did, but will double check.

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I have now just gone to the DarkUI page on Nexus and you are correct, the manual version no longer has the BAIN wizard.txt in it. I don't know when that changed, I'm fairly sure I got my copy from Nexus, but it was a very long time ago. Apologies for leading you astray on that.

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