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#1 MonoAccipiter

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 08:04 PM

Origin of the Mages Guild is a mod by Giskard, that allows you to restore the mages guild to its former glory after becoming archmage.

 

As the mod author describes it:

 

This mod allows you to restore the Mages Guild back to its former glory after Traven's years in power brought it to the brink of ruin. The mod is based on the book "Origin of the Mages Guild" and it is the guild described in that book that you will be recreating in this mod. By completing various quests you will see the Guild slowly live again, with visitors, students and others coming and going as old areas are reopened, new staff hired and new research implimented for the good of all.

 

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Edited by MonoAccipiter, 05 December 2014 - 08:06 PM.

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#2 WilliamImm

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 10:38 PM

I'm going to be perfectly honest, even if this mod supposedly made the game so much better, I'm still not going to download it, or any of Giskard's other mods. He has lost so much trust with the modding community with his past and present actions. This tells you what you need to know about his history.

And yes, regarding his current actions here are some threads where both Giskard and I ended up posting.

#3 GrantSP

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 11:16 PM

Just read those threads and I haven't had as much fun since I fell in a nest of Fire ants. Oh wait...



#4 MonoAccipiter

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 07:49 AM

With all due respect, please refrain from hijacking my thread to start a witch hunt against the mod author. 


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#5 WilliamImm

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 10:01 AM

My intention was not to start a witch hunt. My intention was to point out that the author of the mod you are suggesting is ridiculously checkered, and still is. That alone is enough for me to avoid his mods at all costs, but I really don't want the people here to provoke Giskard because of this.

Additionally, including his mods in a guide on this site, and suggesting they should be cleaned (because odds are, they need to be) or in some cases even suggesting using BOSS along with the use of his mods may cause him to provoke a massive flame war on this site. So, really, knowing his history and attitude towards some things STEP and STEP-like guides recommend, it's best to avoid stirring this up by adding any of his mods.

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 10:40 AM

I'd just like to say that if you ignore the polititical (or however you want to describe the above issues against the author), this mod is really good. In fact, quite a few of his mods are pretty good. You'll want to carefully clean them, as the author doesn't believe in doing that himself. You also have to accept that you are using an exiled author's mod and as such, you will not find support for it from other mods (patches and such). But if you choose mods which overlap with his minimally, it really does make a nice game.


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#7 Aiyen

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 12:42 PM

Please keep this thread about the mod, not about the drama and what not. If you want to post about all that lovely drama please take it to the banter inn part of the forums. 



#8 MonoAccipiter

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 03:18 PM

Thank you, Aiyen. 
 

I'd just like to say that if you ignore the polititical (or however you want to describe the above issues against the author), this mod is really good. In fact, quite a few of his mods are pretty good. You'll want to carefully clean them, as the author doesn't believe in doing that himself. You also have to accept that you are using an exiled author's mod and as such, you will not find support for it from other mods (patches and such). But if you choose mods which overlap with his minimally, it really does make a nice game.

I believe at least Better Cities has some compatibility patch for it (mentioning it in the latest patch notes), but IIRC there was a conflict between it and OOO because OMG replaced a cupboard (with a non-respawning version) which OOO used as a quest target. UESP says the following about the matter (the link to the patch is broken):

 

Origin of the Mages Guild [OMG] -- Version 5.0 and lower overlaps a critical container used by OOO during the Mages Guild quest. Get the OMG_OOO_Patch or use the patch included with FCOM 0.9.6 to fix this problem. Load the OOO patch after OMG. Requires OOO 1.32 (any version of 1.32) or 1.33 and OMG. Version 5.1 fixes this issue, but FCOM_OMG.esp is still required to fix cell, NPC and Faction issues.


Edited by MonoAccipiter, 14 December 2014 - 03:18 PM.

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#9 hishutup

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 09:11 PM

I'll take a look at it when I go back to writing the guide.

 

 

I could care less if the author is a ____ (fill in the blank with a word of your preference).

 

I doubt an author will have any control of what I put in the guide. I'm not hosting any files on my page, other than CCC but that is because I have permission.

 

I can instruct a user to do what ever I please...

Its up to the user to make the decision of whether or not to follow through with it. 

The user has to make this decision by using their better judgement on the instructions that I present.

 

I can tell anyone to commit a murder but its up to a reader to perform the action.

 

 

I believe the most the author could do is bug everyone and then get banned or take down the site.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.



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Posted 28 February 2015 - 07:24 AM

So, what the status of OMG? Does it work when used together with your STEP guide?


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#11 TechAngel85

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Posted 01 March 2015 - 02:03 AM

I'm sure it will probably have some conflicts that will need to be resolved.

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Posted 01 March 2015 - 02:43 AM

I can imagine :( . Too bad there are these compatibility problems, since this mod is quite good.


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#13 hishutup

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Posted 01 March 2015 - 06:47 PM

If I remember correctly there was a mod that occupied the same space but I am unsure.



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Posted 16 April 2015 - 01:48 PM

It conflicts with Better Cities IIRC


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