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#31 Nozzer66

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Posted 01 March 2015 - 01:24 AM

Ahhhh the old missing scripts issue. I wish I could say I've never done that one myself...

 

I can't though. :)


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Posted 16 March 2015 - 03:18 AM

Well... after all the working, tweaking, and load checking... wife looks at me tonight and asks, "why are you still NOT playing???" And I say, "Because the damn game keeps crashing every time I hit Whiterun."

 

My memory blocks are 256/256.

 

I have checked my extensions (no text file, made my own INI... skse 1.07.02)

 

[General]
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

[Display]
iTintTextureResolution=1024

 

 

I added "-forcesteamloader" to my SKSE executable

I tried the option from poster #2, putting the skse.ini into the main skyrim folder where the loader is...

 

Still getting MB 256/256 for blocks one and two.  Any ideas?

 

What beats all hell, is I had this working in NMM before swapping to MO and STEP by following the instructions in Gopher's video and I rarely ILS'ed anywhere, or CTD between cells. And that was with a jacked load order.

 

So I KNOW the fix works, just not sure why it is not being properly applied in my system.

 

Thanks in advance.


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#33 Nozzer66

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 03:29 AM

Don't put it where the loader is. Put it back where it's supposed to be first.

 

Then check you haven't done the old SKSE.ini.txt trick by ensuring you're showing file extensions in Windoze.


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#34 keithinhanoi

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 08:43 AM

What beats all hell, is I had this working in NMM before swapping to MO and STEP by following the instructions in Gopher's video and I rarely ILS'ed anywhere, or CTD between cells. And that was with a jacked load order.

 

So I KNOW the fix works, just not sure why it is not being properly applied in my system.

 

Thanks in advance.

Have you installed the SKSE scripts folder as a managed mod in Mod Organizer?

 

This is a suggested benefit that includes the benefit of helping to leave your "real" Skyrim /data folder completely untouched.

 

A bonus also is that you can put your skse.ini file into the folder the Mod Organizer makes, and then you KNOW it's in the right place.

 

I'll skip the explanation for how to get the SKSE scripts into MO as a mod, and just go right to showing you where the skse.ini file goes, inside MO's folder that you make for SKSE:

 

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When you install the skse.ini file this way, you can also use MO's built-in .ini file editor to view / edit it, without having to open up an external text editor:

 

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Now if all that still doesn't work, then consider looking at where you have Skyrim, Mod Organizer and SKSE installed. Are any of them in a directory with UAC (user access control) or specific permissions, such as Program Files? Then that may be preventing SKSE from being able to read the skse.ini file. Move all of them into a directory which does not have restricted file access, and you can rule that out as a possible reason.

 

Personally, even though I've got Steam installed on my C: drive in Program Files (x86), I set up an additional Steam Library Folder (Steam > Settings > Downloads > Content Libraries) on a different drive (D: in my case), and Skyrim is installed using Steam in there, and all of my modding utilities (including MO) are in the Skyrim directory. All of that works perfectly, and I've never had any issues with the skse.ini file not working as expected.


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#35 Zegorzalek

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 11:49 AM

Have you installed the SKSE scripts folder as a managed mod in Mod Organizer?

 

 

 

A bonus also is that you can put your skse.ini file into the folder the Mod Organizer makes, and then you KNOW it's in the right place.

 

 

rXzC0O3.png

 

 

 

If I could send you a coffee for this picture, I would.  I did have scripts installed through MO... but for some arcane reason had my skse.ini in the base folder along with the meta file. No separate "SKSE" sub folder. Not sure where I missed that in the instructions, and frankly, and not going to pour back through that 45 minute video again today... because it WORKS!

 

Bottom line... made SKSE sub folder in the MO managed directory as above... and I get:

 

block one 512, block 2 256

 

*joy*

 

 

edit* --- Oh... going to have to make an output folder in left side of MO in order to clear the overwrite directory... named mine "SKSE Mem Blocks Log Output" and checked it.

 

as an addendum... looking at the "data" pane on the right side of MO... down in SKSE>plugins.... there are a lot of items directly loaded into the plugin directory... moreHUD, FuzRoDoh... and my SKSE ini is now showing up over there.

 

**edit #2** just got to do some testing... loaded up all the followers, AND JK's all in one cities...(which was unplayable previously at about 1fps) and tore around Whiterun at speedmult 400... not a stutter... AMAZING. Went outside, set speedmult to 1000, tgm and tcl... picked up aggro from every fort and settlement between whiterun and windhelm... and finally locked screen on the far east side of windhelm docks... MB Log was still only 408 and 197~.  < color me a HAPPY camper.

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#36 hishutup

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 12:05 PM

updated OP to include skse location instructions.

 

 

First, please copy and paste the following into your SKSE.ini file

Make sure your ini is located as such ...\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\SKSE.ini

If you follow STEP check this out.

 


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Posted 20 March 2015 - 02:56 AM

hi again.   been having a blast tonight (finally got to play).  after about 2 hours of play and finding the golden claw, i decide its time to go back to first town via fast travel.

 

i pressed M for map, and had an immediate CTD - no error message from windows saying there was a problem etc.  just - poof - gone.

 

i searched the site, and tried to do the forcesteamloader thing in the skse launcher argument - didnt work.

i tried the injector version of enboost - didnt work.

MO manages my SKSE

 

i installed memory block and this is what i get:

 

 

i cant seem to find anything else that could help me fix this - ideas?


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#38 hishutup

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 03:38 AM

what is the [MEMORY] in ENBlocal.ini



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Posted 20 March 2015 - 05:12 AM

should be as directed by ENBoost guide in the STEP.

 

 

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false
ReservedMemorySizeMb=512
VideoMemorySizeMb=18432     
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false
 
 
CALCULATION OF VideoMemorySizeMb
 
;64-bit users with >= 8GB system RAM, set to formula: [VRAM] + [System RAM] - [2048]
 
vram = 4096 
system ram = 16384 (16gb)
 
total = 4096+16384-2048 = 18432
 
vram = (system/inspectors says 4gb, but card specs say 2gb: http://www.gigabyte....px?pid=4663#sp)
 
 
so i am not too sure what to do about the VideoMemorySizeMb, if i have the right number or not.

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 11:39 AM

here is the rest of my enblocal.ini [MEMORY] section

 

[MEMORY]
ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=false
DisablePreloadToVRAM=false
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false
ReservedMemorySizeMb=512
VideoMemorySizeMb=16384
EnableCompression=true
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false

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Posted 20 March 2015 - 12:04 PM

a further update - my SKSE.ini is in the correct MO folder > SKSE

 

it is still not working.   

 

can nobody help me with this?


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Posted 20 March 2015 - 05:29 PM

Why not just try reducing the figures for your memory?

 

Use 2048 instead of 4096 for VRAM and reduce your system RAM down to half of what you have now.

If it works with those settings, which are still pretty decent figures, then at least your game can continue.



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Posted 20 March 2015 - 10:50 PM

i have tried that, didnt work.

 

game runs fine - but as soon as i open the map it crashes


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Posted 20 March 2015 - 11:33 PM

do you use any map mods/tweaks, if you do can you list them.

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Posted 21 March 2015 - 04:48 AM

i have only used the mods in the step guide - core & extended


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