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Mods list:230 mods acceptable?


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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
BBLuxurySuite.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
XFLMain.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp
ADS.esp
AOS.esp
BWS.esp
DragonShoutVoice.esp
IHSS.esp
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
TradeBarter.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
Ars Metallica.esp
Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp
Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp
Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Baby Dragons.esp
BirdsHFclean.esp
BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
ClamsDropPearls.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
Disease Descriptions.esp
DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp
DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - 1_5x Brighter.esp
manny Lantern Caretakers.esp
More Salt Please.esp
More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp
More_Saddles.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
Moss Rocks_DB.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
Point The Way.esp
RabbitsPlus.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
ShootingStars.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
SMDropLitTorch.esp
TouringCarriages.esp
Traps Are Dangerous.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
Footprints.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
NoxUE2.00.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
UIExtensions.esp
SkyUI.esp
iHUD.esp
TakeNotes.esp
DaggerCraft.esp
DualSwords.esp
Elemental Staves.esp
ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
FF7 Bustersword.esp
FF7 Masamune & Souba.esp
hardargAerith.esp
hardargCloud.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Inquisitor Set.esp
Insanity's Craftable Dragonbane.esp
Insanity's Dragonbane.esp
ISDScimitar.esp
Itachiring.esp
KatanaCrafting.esp
nhb.esp
Ranger's Cape.esp
Ronin outfit.esp
Sword Master Armor.esp
TifaV3.ff7.byHimmelsky.esp
TribalMightArmor.esp
Lock Overhaul.esp
DragonsDiversified.esp
BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp
BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp
BBLSspouse.esp
BBLSVisitors.esp
BBLSmusic.esp
Convenient Horse Herding.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
OBIS.esp
OBISDB.esp
Bandit Patrols.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
AchieveThat.esp
Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
BlockSparkles.esp
Distant DetailHF.esp
DiversePriests.esp
DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp
dynamic fires.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_GuardDialogueOverhaul_Patch.esp
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
Soul Gems Differ - E.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-ThievesGuildRequirementsPatch.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
TimingIsEverything_RunForYourLives_Patch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-TimingIsEverythingPatch.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp
Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.esp
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_ESS.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
Dodge Mod.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
Sneak Tools.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
Pretty Combat Idles.esp
Pretty Female Idles.esp
Pretty Poses And Animations.esp
Beards.esp
Brows.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
3DNPC.esp
HothFollower.esp
XFLConfig.esp
XFLDialogue.esp
XFLPanel.esp
XFLPlugins.esp
HothFollower UFO Patch.esp
SBF All In One + DLC.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
WolfFollower.esp
FollowerWander2.esp
CerwidenCompanion.esp
moveitLWT.esp
NonEssentialChildren.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
StartingLoadouts.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
Purewaters.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
hardargKadaj.esp

 
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We need to talk about your flair ... Now, you know it's up to you whether or not you want to just do the bare minimum. Or... well, like <Me>, for example, has over three hundred mods, okay. And a terrific smile.

 

Bad Office Space paraphrasing aside, using the TES5Edit merge script, best practices and general knowledge from the STEP Forum, and a potentially dangerous level of bravado your number of plugins isn't neccesarily a concern. Available memory and papyrus load are most likely more important. Choose textures appropriate to your hardware (see the STEP guide for best practices on that) and avoid overloading yourself with scripts (see STEP Packs for users takes on good combinations of mods to extend STEP core).

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You are already in the place that answered those questions for me. It wasn't quick or easy, took a lot of reading, asking questions on the forum, more reading, lots of trial and error, and of course I'm still learning. Switch to Mod Organizer (if you haven't already) and start building a STEP Core install. Expect to start and stop a few playthroughs while figuring out how dial things in, and have fun with the process.

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Yup, quality is more important than quantity. 300 good solid relatively non-conflicting mods is far more stable than running one crap, bloat ridden poorly scripted mod. Add to the arsenal to defend stability: ENBoost and SSME (aka Sheson's Magic Fingers).

 

A dash of realism helps, if you have 2 GB of System RAM and a 512 GB VRAM GPU running on a potato...some restrictions may apply.

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espSPERG.esmApachiiHair.esmApachiiHairMales.esmXFLMain.esmREGS - Resources.esmETaC - RESOURCES.esmApachiiHairFemales.esmOmegared99-Compilation.esmTKChildren.esmTravellersOfSkyrim.esmdaymoyl.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espOmegared99-WeaponSets.espFlansEyesForSkrim.espThe Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.espAuto Unequip Ammo.espBeards.espSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.espRealisticRoomRental-Basic.espSMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.espWarmongerArmory_Vanilla.espAHZmoreHUD.espImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.espConvenient Horses.espDelphine Makeover D2.espETaC - Complete.espDerrax_Gendered_Werewolves.espEpisodeParallax.espELE-FX Emittance.espSkyrim - Player Re-Voiced - Elven Races Complete - Male.espYASH_ImprovedClasses.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espRacialXPandSkillBonus.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espFCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espXFLDialogue.espBrows.espDeadlyDragons.espImmersive Sounds - Magic.espMarcurioGB.espNB-Scars.espNo More Glowing Edges.espPresets 2-3.espRelightingSkyrim-FULL.espETaC - Dragon Bridge South.espETaC - Complete TK Children Patch.espELE Plugin - RS Light Color.espCloaks - Dawnguard.espWATER DG.espHelgen Imperial Armory.espForestAtronach.espBelrand by CrimsonFairy.espSMIM-DragonbornTernFix.espSMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.espSkyUI.espSmoking Torches.espSoul Gems Glow When Full.espSurilie and Argonian Wine.espTKChildren Merged USKP Patch.espTheEyesOfBeauty.espThundering Shouts.espTradeBarter.espTravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn Addon.espTravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.espWATER.espWarmongerArmory_DLC.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espDaedric Dawnbreaker.espSPERG.espOverride Speech.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espTrueGauldurAmulet.espCollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espImmersive Weapons.espWarmongerArmory_LeveledList.espStandard-15Percent.espTalvas by CrimsonFairy.espBrothers.espREGS - Cities.espBHTNF_Eli.espGalen_werewolf.espRavenRockExpanded.espSkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.espREGS - Better Docks.espSky Haven Temple M&M3.espInns and Taverns.espDawnofWindhelm.espBFT Ships and Carriages.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espRobedSteelPlateArmor.espWATER DB Waves.espSPERG Immersive Armors.espPopulated Dungeons Caves Ruins for USKP.espCloaks.espwhiterunmerged_tpos.espSMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.espRebirth Monster.espSkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.espImmersive Dragonborn.espSMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.espTelvanniGuards.espUnderstone Keep Repair.espImmersive Orc Strongholds.espMammothManor.espPoint The Way.espUniqueBorderGates-All.espETaC - Complete Taverns Patch.espETaC - Complete BFT Patch.espBannered_Mare_Inn_Rooms.espAnruin.espPopulated Lands Roads Paths.espPopulated Forts Towers Places.espSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.espSMIM-ShackRoofFixes.espSkyTEST-RealisticAnimalBehavior.espChesko_Frostfall.espREGS - Better City Entrances.espCCO_Frostfall_Patch.espbeginnersshack.espWATER Plants.espThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.espHoldBorderBanners.espHearthfireChimneys - ETaC.espCWIDawnDragonPatch.espMale Elven Followers Compilation V1.espDimitri by CrimsonFairy.espCWINPCImprovements.espOnmund.espWeaponsArmorFixes_GuardDialogueOverhaul_Patch.espPrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp1nivWICCloaks.esp1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.espenchantedclothing.espImmersive Dawnguard.espWoollyRhino.esphigh hrothgar overhaul.espiNeed.espGildergreen Regrown.espImmersive Brigands.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espApocalypse - SPERG Compatibility Patch.espUniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.espForgotten Windmill.espImmersive Factions.espLightsLakeviewManor.espSkBBP - Lore-Friendly Stats and Encumbrance.espiNeed-SurilieWine.espSmithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.espSPERG Weapons and Armor Complete.espXFLPlugins.espYASH_CombatAI.espYASH_OpenEncounterZones.espYetAnotherWerewolfImprovement_DG.espYield 2.0.espiHUD.espBashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

I'm at 168 esp/esms now, I've been pruning things a bit.

 

My system: Intel i3570k, Radeon HD6850 1 GB VRAM, 8 GB System RAM, Windows 7/64 bit, SanDisk 120 GB SSD, 1 TB Standard HDD

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I run a mod set up with about 400 mods - and that translates to about 225 plugins at the moment (I have more mods in testing currently, mainly for Dragonborn addon). My game is pretty stable. I do get an occasional CTD, but I don't think one can avoid crashes with a silly number of complex scripts running in game. Sometimes I won't crash for hours - I've had 5-6 hours long sessions without a single CTD or any glitch. 

 

Must say that the crashes are very rare and I am happy with what I have.

 

Now, for the best part. It took me about a YEAR to get my game to this state. I've started about 4 or 5 new games, and then ditched them after few levels, as I found errors and conflicts in my modlist as my character levelled. Each time I was able to get my character to a higher level until the game became unplayable. At this moment my character is level 30-something and it is highest level I achieved with this complex build. As said, my game is reasonably stable and hopefully it will remain that way (I want to finally experience end-game content!).

 

Also, over the course of this 1 year a couple solutions were developed that helped with stability (Sheson's patch as well as better understanding of how ENBoost works). But the main problem was the amount of conflicts. 

 

So yeah, 230 mods (or plugins, if that is what you meant) is perfectly fine, but it requires A LOT of work to grant compatibility (custom patches, merged ESPs) and a conscious sacrifice of the mods that just won't play nicely with conjunction with all the other mods you have installed (even though they may be perfectly fine and stable in a less complex mod set up). 

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