I am pretty sure everyone is familiar with these mods, and I am equally sure most see them as not being lore friendly. The main complaint being that they are too beautiful. For some people, this may be true, but for some, like me, having them is lore friendly, and not having them is immersion breaking. I will briefly explain why including them IS lore friendly, and why having unrealistically beautiful women is in fact, realistic.
First, we have to understand human nature, and how as a species we are extremely adaptable to our environment, which includes the humans in that environment. For example, imagine a race or group of women that you do not find the least bit attractive. If you had been raised among those women, and that is all you knew, you WOULD find them attractive. In other words, this would be the norm in your mind. And it would be natural for you to find them attractive. I personally find women of average height, and average to less than average weight, to be attractive. However, if all I knew while growing up, had been 6 foot tall women who weighed between 200 and 250 pounds, I would find at least some of them to be extremely attractive.
In the early years of the U.S., some authors spoke of how just getting a glimpse of a woman's ankles when she lifted her dress, was highly arousing to men. Why? Because they rarely saw a woman's ankles. Would a glimpse of a woman's ankles do much for you today? Not likely because you see them all the time. In other words, what is beautiful, and what is sexy is subjective, and changes with cultural changes.
Where, and when, I went to high school, the girls wore plain hair styles, and little to no makeup. At the time I found many of the girls to be attractive, but now when I look through the yearbook, I am hard pressed to find more than 2 or 3. Beauty standards have changed.
Now, the final piece. When in college, we learned a great deal about history, and we often heard about women who were supposedly very very beautiful. Cleopatra for one, but also some Roman and later European women. But when we find representations...even very accurate representations, they do not look beautiful at all. In fact, they look fairly plain. And it is likely they all had some seriously messed up teeth.
So here is the point. While you can replicate how a woman might have looked in ancient Nord times, the problem becomes that the women who are supposed to be beautiful, are not beautiful. The question becomes how beautiful should they be and how many should be beautiful. Well, I recently went back to school and I see many many very beautiful women walking around the campus every single day. So I don't think it would be unrealistic to have a couple of dozen very beautiful women in Skyrim. These mods only put a tiny amount of very beautiful women scattered throughout Skyrim. When you enter Solitude, or Whiterun, the two major centers of population in Skyrim, you will come across two or three of these very beautiful women. I see that as very realistic, and thus immersive. Elisif the Fair is supposed to be extremely beautiful, thus "the Fair," added to her name. The Toccata Follower mod as an optional file to give that face to Elisif the Fair, and I did that last time. It is truly a face worthy of the title.
If we wanted to be ultra realistic, you would want 20% of the women in game, who are not children, or old, to be very attractive, with half of them being Bijin beautiful. And one advantage to his beauties is that they don't all look the same, unlike some mods that generally have the same looking face. His are modeled after real women with very different looks.
This woman, Mélanie Laurent, is the inspiration for the Toccata/Elisif the Fair face, pictured above.
So that is my case. Maybe not so brief, but whatever. So it would be nice to see this tested and added as an option for the mods that presently alter these NPCs.
By the way, I am doing just that. I am adding these mods. I will add a post later, once I have met these NPC's in the game. Presently, I do not have a great video card, GTX 750, so this will be a great test.