Game started fine, then.. ILS.

[Sakiri]

As I mentioned in another thread, I was trying to modify my STEP install to add Enhanced Landscapes and run the Dark Fantasy set. Had an idea based off a video by Brodual.

 

Well.. this is what happened.

 

https://youtu.be/paFMgr5W_oU

 

Framerate is trash, lagging so bad my horse decided he needed to take a flight somewhere, and that popping.

 

Disabling the ENB(Bleak) helped the framerate, but not the popping. Framerate was a tiny bit worse than normal because I was recording.

 

In the end, I ended up completely ripping out everything and starting with a pristine Vanilla install. Reinstalled a bunch of mods, ignoring most of the mesh and texture updates outside the character ones from STEP and aMidianBorn's armor/weapon textures, and weapon meshes. 

 

But anyways, it all loaded nicely the first time, got a character in game and going, but once I got out of Helgen, I hit up Riverwood and saved. Saving a new character is a mistake.

 

Every single time I've attempted to test this build, a brand new game results in a fairly long load time to the cart ride(which I expect) but then everything is good until I save and exit to desktop.

 

If I try to reload that save, I get ILS.

 

Load order:

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

SkyUI.esp

xce.esp

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

Enhanced Landscapes.esp

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

imp_helm_legend.esp

Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp

NARC.esp

Paralyze.esp

STEP Vanilla Optimized Textures - Performance.esp

SamuraiArmor.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Beards.esp

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

BWS.esp

Brows.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp

Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Dark Dungeons for Skyrim-Dawnguard-Dragonborn.esp

SolitudeExterior.esp

WhiterunExterior.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

Enhanced Landscapes - Grass.esp

Enhanced Landscapes - Solstheim.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

Enhanced Landscapes - DLC Patch.esp

Enhanced Landscapes - Green Fields.esp

Morning Fogs.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul Lite.esp

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

RelightingSkyrim_Legendary.esp

ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp

DesyncBirdsOfPrey.esp

Enhanced Landscapes - Dark Fantasy.esp

Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp

FNIS.esp

GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp

HelmetToggle2.02b.esp

IHSS.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

KS Hairdo's.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

ADS.esp

Soul Gems Differ.esp

Supreme Fog - CoT.esp

TradeBarter.esp

ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

DynDOLOD.esp

 

 

Skyrim.ini:

 

 

[General]

sLanguage = ENGLISH

uExterior Cell Buffer = 36

fFlickeringLightDistance = 8192.0

sIntroSequence = 

 

[Display]

fShadowLODMaxStartFade = 1000.0

fSpecularLODMaxStartFade = 2000.0

fLightLODMaxStartFade = 3500.0

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary = 2048

bAllowScreenshot = 0

fSunUpdateThreshold = 1.5

fSunShadowUpdateTime = 0.25

 

[Audio]

fMusicDuckingSeconds = 6.0

fMusicUnDuckingSeconds = 8.0

fMenuModeFadeOutTime = 3.0

fMenuModeFadeInTime = 1.0

 

[Grass]

bAllowCreateGrass = 1

bAllowLoadGrass = 0

iMinGrassSize = 40

fGrassFadeRange = 10000.0

iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure = 7

 

[GeneralWarnings]

SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning = One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

 

[Archive]

sResourceArchiveList = Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa

sResourceArchiveList2 = Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

bInvalidateOlderFiles =0

SInvalidationFile =ArchiveInvalidation.txt

sArchiveList = Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa

 

[Combat]

fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult = 0.0

fMagnetismLookingMult = 0.0

f1PArrowTiltUpAngle = 0.7

f1PBoltTiltUpAngle = 0.7

f3PArrowTiltUpAngle = 0.7

 

[Papyrus]

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS = 500.0

bEnableLogging = 0

bEnableTrace = 0

bLoadDebugInformation = 0

 

[Water]

bReflectLODObjects = 1

bReflectLODLand = 1

bReflectSky = 1

bReflectLODTrees = 1

 

[Actor]

fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist = 12288.0000

 

[Camera]

fMouseWheelZoomSpeed = 10.0

 

[interface]

bShowTutorials = 0

 

[MapMenu]

fMapWorldMinPitch = 0.0

fMapWorldYawRange = 400.0

fMapWorldMaxPitch = 90.0

 

skyrimprefs.ini:

[General]

fBrightLightColorB = 1.0000

fBrightLightColorG = 1.0000

fBrightLightColorR = 1.0000

iStoryManagerLoggingEvent =-1

bEnableStoryManagerLogging =0

 

[imagespace]

bDoDepthOfField =1

iRadialBlurLevel = 2

 

[Display]

bDeferredShadows =1

iBlurDeferredShadowMask =3

fInteriorShadowDistance =3000.0000

fShadowDistance =8000.0000

iShadowMapResolutionSecondary = 1024

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary = 2048

iShadowSplitCount = 2

iMaxAnisotropy =0

fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd =4600.0000

fLeafAnimDampenDistStart =3600.0000

fTreesMidLODSwitchDist =8192.0000

fGamma =1.0000

fDecalLOD2 =1500.0000

fDecalLOD1 =1000.0000

fSpecularLODStartFade =2000.0000

fShadowLODStartFade =200.0000

fLightLODStartFade =3500.0000

iTexMipMapMinimum =0

iTexMipMapSkip =0

iWaterMultiSamples =0

iMultiSample =0

iShadowMode =3

bTreesReceiveShadows =1

bDrawLandShadows =1

bShadowsOnGrass =1

bFull Screen =1

iSize H =1080

iSize W =1920

fMeshLODFadePercentDefault =1.2000

fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault =256.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance =4096.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance =6144.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist =10000000.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist =10000000.0000

iScreenShotIndex =2

bShadowMaskZPrepass =0

bMainZPrepass =0

iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame =100

iMaxDecalsPerFrame =250

bFloatPointRenderTarget =1

sD3DDevice = "AMD Radeon R9 380 Series"

bFXAAEnabled =0

iShadowMapResolution =4096

fShadowBiasScale =0.1500

iShadowMaskQuarter =4

iAdapter = 0

iPresentInterval = 1

bFloatPointRenderTarget=1

iShadowFilter=3

bTransparencyMultisampling=0

bDrawShadows=1

 

[Grass]

b30GrassVS =1

fGrassStartFadeDistance =7000.0000

fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance =7000.0000

fGrassMinStartFadeDistance =0.0000

 

[MAIN]

bGamepadEnable =1

bCrosshairEnabled =1

fHUDOpacity =1.0000

bSaveOnPause =1

bSaveOnTravel =1

bSaveOnWait =1

bSaveOnRest =1

fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000

 

[GamePlay]

bShowFloatingQuestMarkers =1

bShowQuestMarkers =1

iDifficulty =3

 

[interface]

bDialogueSubtitles =1

bGeneralSubtitles =1

fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000

bShowCompass=1

 

[Controls]

fGamepadHeadingSensitivity =1.0000

fMouseHeadingSensitivity =0.0240

bAlwaysRunByDefault =1

bInvertYValues =0

bGamePadRumble =1

bMouseAcceleration = 1

bUseKinect=0

 

[Particles]

iMaxDesired =750

 

[saveGame]

fAutosaveEveryXMins =15.0000

 

[AudioMenu]

fAudioMasterVolume =1.0000

fVal7 =1.0000

uID7 =553853109

fVal6 =1.0000

uID6 =553853106

fVal5 =1.0000

uID5 =553854488

fVal4 =1.0000

uID4 =553853110

fVal3 =1.0000

uID3 =94881

fVal2 =0.4000

uID2 =466532

fVal1 =1.0000

uID1 =554685

fVal0 =0.8000

uID0 =1007612

 

[Clouds]

fCloudLevel2Distance =262144.0000

fCloudLevel1Distance =32768.0000

fCloudLevel0Distance =16384.0000

fCloudNearFadeDistance =9000.0000

 

[TerrainManager]

fTreeLoadDistance =75000.0000

fBlockMaximumDistance =250000.0000

fBlockLevel1Distance =70000.0000

fBlockLevel0Distance =35000.0000

fSplitDistanceMult =1.5000

bShowLODInEditor =0

 

[NavMesh]

fObstacleAlpha = 0.5000

fCoverSideHighAlpha = 0.8000

fCoverSideLowAlpha = 0.6500

fEdgeFullAlpha = 1.0000

fEdgeHighAlpha = 0.7500

fEdgeLowAlpha = 0.5000

fTriangleFullAlpha = 0.7000

fTriangleHighAlpha = 0.3500

fTriangleLowAlpha = 0.2000

fLedgeBoxHalfHeight = 25.0000

fEdgeDistFromVert = 10.0000

fEdgeThickness = 10.0000

fPointSize = 2.5000

 

[Trees]

bRenderSkinnedTrees =1

uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender =200

 

[Decals]

uMaxDecals =1000

bDecals = 1

bSkinnedDecals = 1

uMaxSkinDecals = 100

uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor = 60

 

[LOD]

fLODFadeOutMultObjects =15.0000

fLODFadeOutMultItems =15.0000

fLODFadeOutMultActors =15.0000

fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000

 

[Launcher]

bEnableFileSelection = 1

bShowAllResolutions = 1

uLastAspectRatio = 3

 

[blurShaderHDR]

bDoHighDynamicRange = 1

 

[blurShader]

bUseBlurShader = 0

 

[Water]

iWaterReflectHeight =1024

iWaterReflectWidth =1024

 

bUseWaterDisplacements=1

bUseWaterRefractions=1

bUseWaterReflections=1

bUseWaterDepth=1

 

enblocal.ini:

[PROXY]

EnableProxyLibrary=false

InitProxyFunctions=true

ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll

 

[GLOBAL]

UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=false

UseDefferedRendering=true

IgnoreCreationKit=true

 

[PERFORMANCE]

SpeedHack=true

EnableOcclusionCulling=true

 

[MEMORY]

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false

ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true

DisableDriverMemoryManager=true

DisablePreloadToVRAM=false

EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false

ReservedMemorySizeMb=512

VideoMemorySizeMb=4064

EnableCompression=false

AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false

 

[THREADS]

DataSyncMode=0

PriorityMode=0

EnableUnsafeFixes=false

 

[MULTIHEAD]

ForceVideoAdapterIndex=false

VideoAdapterIndex=0

 

[WINDOW]

ForceBorderless=false

ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false

 

[ENGINE]

ForceAnisotropicFiltering=true

MaxAnisotropy=16

ForceLodBias=false

LodBias=0.0

AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false

EnableVSync=true

VSyncSkipNumFrames=0

 

[LIMITER]

WaitBusyRenderer=false

EnableFPSLimit=false

FPSLimit=10.0

 

[iNPUT]

//shift

KeyCombination=16

//f12

KeyUseEffect=123

//home

KeyFPSLimit=36

//num /       106

KeyShowFPS=106

//print screen

KeyScreenshot=44

//enter

KeyEditor=13

//f4

KeyFreeVRAM=115

//B

KeyBruteForce=66

 

[ADAPTIVEQUALITY]

Enable=false

Quality=1

DesiredFPS=20.0

 

[ANTIALIASING]

EnableEdgeAA=false

EnableTemporalAA=false

EnableSubPixelAA=false

 

[FIX]

FixGameBugs=true

FixParallaxBugs=true

FixParallaxTerrain=false

FixAliasedTextures=true

IgnoreInventory=true

FixTintGamma=true

RemoveBlur=false

FixSubSurfaceScattering=true

FixSkyReflection=true

FixCursorVisibility=true

FixLag=false

 

[LONGEXPOSURE]

EnableLongExposureMode=false

Time=1.0

BlendMax=0.0

 

Before, while I was still loaded into the game, my distant terrain was.. well, missing and popping in. I had trees floating in the air, had to get closer to get the ground to render. I had a STEP core install running just fine without an ENB before, though my framerate wasn't completely smooth. I can't imagine ENB causing *this* much of a performance hit, and it doesn't explain why I'm sitting at ILS.

 

At this rate, I'm tempted to just say screw it, play a vanilla install, because I've got a machinima project this noncooperating game is holding up. I've been trying to get this particular set up working for two days. 

 

I'm pretty much at a loss, and have a feeling if this is how big of a problem a modded game is, my PC won't run Special Edition.

 

[Nebulous112]

You need either the skse.ini tweaks or Crash Fixes with the SKSE plugin preloader and UseOSAllocators=1.

 

That would explain the ILS.

[Joat_Mon]

As Nebulous112 said you need to use one or the other. I would recommend Crash Fixes.

 

You can probably set DisableDriverMemoryManager=false as it should not be necessary on your GPU, setting it to true will have performance impact.

[Sakiri]

Can you explain please?

 

You just spoke Greek. I'm also slightly drowsy so I may have to continue this in the morning, provided no one barges into my bedroom again.

And do you think the current load list is salvageable or should I start from scratch again? Hoping to get this going soon before I get frustrated enough to lose interest in the game again.

 

This is my first time actually trying to use ENB presets. Generally I don't try but I totally love that aesthetic. Always loved the gloomy, gritty stuff.

[Joat_Mon]

That setting in your enblocal.ini was for much older AMD video cards and drivers. It should not be necessary for your video card and if you enable it ENB uses more of your memory to manage the driver functions.

[Joat_Mon]

Sheson's memory patch was incorporated into SKSE so a separate download of the patch is no longer needed, but is not activated by default. Thats probably why you're confused. About the same time meh321 released Crash Fixes which uses a different approach to memory management. Either one works. I've been using Crash Fixes for a while on four very different machines and I like it better than Sheson's memory patch.

Edited July 30, 2016 by Joat_Mon

[Sakiri]

So start a fresh build, ignore that line when setting up the .ini stuff, install crash fixes and anything it requires, utilities and then start the load order install?

Apologies for being mod stupid. You're great right now. <3

[Joat_Mon]

One more thing I would recommend is to set up a separate partition for Skyrim while you're at it.

 

Remember to clean out all the skyrim and MO file in your user profile and follow the STEP guide and Gamer Poets videos.

[TechAngel85]

You need to remove "iPresentInterval = 1" from the SkyrimPrefs.ini to the Skyrim.ini. Actually, you can just run SpINI to make sure your INIs are not causing any issues.

[Sakiri]

I'm leery on partitioning the drive. I don't like partitioning drives actively being used, stems from the days you couldn't do that without wiping the drive.

 

That said, no, Steam is not installed in Program Files.

 

c:\Steam

 

My only Steam game is Skyrim, and it will continue to stay that way.

Edited July 30, 2016 by Sakiri

[Joat_Mon]

If the windows disk manager snap in will let you shrink the existing partition enough then you should be fine, Still I always clone the drive first.

 

Sometimes windows will not let you shrink the partition and there are solutions for that too.

[Greg]

I never understood the point of partitioning drives since it doesn't really provide any significant benefits in the majority of cases. In the case of a boot drive with spinning media, it can make the drive work harder and degrade performance because the heads are constantly doing a long dance between the page file near the beginning of the platter and Skyrim's assets near the end of the platter. In the case of SSDs, it's still the same physical drive so there aren't any performance benefits. It also makes management more difficult because I now have to manage two partitions with smaller free space each than one partition with one chunk of free space.

[TechAngel85]

A different partition isn't really needed. You just need to make sure Steam isn't install under "C:/My Programs or My Programs (x86)". "C:/games" or anything like the sort is fine.

[Joat_Mon]

The root partition directory is "special" and is subject to limitations that other partitions are not subject to. Often users have no problem loading everything into root, but the potential for problems is real and it is a good idea to avoid them.

 

The directory structure that TechAngel85 recommended is fine and will avoid any problem.

Edited July 30, 2016 by Joat_Mon

[Sakiri]

And that's how it was set up. I don't install anything I need to regularly fiddle with in Program Files.

 

Let me clear something up: if I'm using Crash Fixes, I do *not* want to use Sheson's memory fix?

[TechAngel85]

Correct