Game started fine, then.. ILS.

[Sakiri]

As I mentioned in another thread, I was trying to modify my STEP install to add Enhanced Landscapes and run the Dark Fantasy set. Had an idea based off a video by Brodual.

 

Well.. this is what happened.

 

https://youtu.be/paFMgr5W_oU

 

Framerate is trash, lagging so bad my horse decided he needed to take a flight somewhere, and that popping.

 

Disabling the ENB(Bleak) helped the framerate, but not the popping. Framerate was a tiny bit worse than normal because I was recording.

 

In the end, I ended up completely ripping out everything and starting with a pristine Vanilla install. Reinstalled a bunch of mods, ignoring most of the mesh and texture updates outside the character ones from STEP and aMidianBorn's armor/weapon textures, and weapon meshes. 

 

But anyways, it all loaded nicely the first time, got a character in game and going, but once I got out of Helgen, I hit up Riverwood and saved. Saving a new character is a mistake.

 

Every single time I've attempted to test this build, a brand new game results in a fairly long load time to the cart ride(which I expect) but then everything is good until I save and exit to desktop.

 

If I try to reload that save, I get ILS.

 

Load order:

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

SkyUI.esp

xce.esp

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

Enhanced Landscapes.esp

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

imp_helm_legend.esp

Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp

NARC.esp

Paralyze.esp

STEP Vanilla Optimized Textures - Performance.esp

SamuraiArmor.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Beards.esp

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

BWS.esp

Brows.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp

Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Dark Dungeons for Skyrim-Dawnguard-Dragonborn.esp

SolitudeExterior.esp

WhiterunExterior.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

Enhanced Landscapes - Grass.esp

Enhanced Landscapes - Solstheim.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

Enhanced Landscapes - DLC Patch.esp

Enhanced Landscapes - Green Fields.esp

Morning Fogs.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul Lite.esp

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

RelightingSkyrim_Legendary.esp

ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp

DesyncBirdsOfPrey.esp

Enhanced Landscapes - Dark Fantasy.esp

Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp

FNIS.esp

GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp

HelmetToggle2.02b.esp

IHSS.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

KS Hairdo's.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

ADS.esp

Soul Gems Differ.esp

Supreme Fog - CoT.esp

TradeBarter.esp

ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

DynDOLOD.esp

 

 

Skyrim.ini:

 

 

[General]

sLanguage = ENGLISH

uExterior Cell Buffer = 36

fFlickeringLightDistance = 8192.0

sIntroSequence = 

 

[Display]

fShadowLODMaxStartFade = 1000.0

fSpecularLODMaxStartFade = 2000.0

fLightLODMaxStartFade = 3500.0

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary = 2048

bAllowScreenshot = 0

fSunUpdateThreshold = 1.5

fSunShadowUpdateTime = 0.25

 

[Audio]

fMusicDuckingSeconds = 6.0

fMusicUnDuckingSeconds = 8.0

fMenuModeFadeOutTime = 3.0

fMenuModeFadeInTime = 1.0

 

[Grass]

bAllowCreateGrass = 1

bAllowLoadGrass = 0

iMinGrassSize = 40

fGrassFadeRange = 10000.0

iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure = 7

 

[GeneralWarnings]

SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning = One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

 

[Archive]

sResourceArchiveList = Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa

sResourceArchiveList2 = Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

bInvalidateOlderFiles =0

SInvalidationFile =ArchiveInvalidation.txt

sArchiveList = Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa

 

[Combat]

fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult = 0.0

fMagnetismLookingMult = 0.0

f1PArrowTiltUpAngle = 0.7

f1PBoltTiltUpAngle = 0.7

f3PArrowTiltUpAngle = 0.7

 

[Papyrus]

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS = 500.0

bEnableLogging = 0

bEnableTrace = 0

bLoadDebugInformation = 0

 

[Water]

bReflectLODObjects = 1

bReflectLODLand = 1

bReflectSky = 1

bReflectLODTrees = 1

 

[Actor]

fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist = 12288.0000

 

[Camera]

fMouseWheelZoomSpeed = 10.0

 

[interface]

bShowTutorials = 0

 

[MapMenu]

fMapWorldMinPitch = 0.0

fMapWorldYawRange = 400.0

fMapWorldMaxPitch = 90.0

 

skyrimprefs.ini:

[General]

fBrightLightColorB = 1.0000

fBrightLightColorG = 1.0000

fBrightLightColorR = 1.0000

iStoryManagerLoggingEvent =-1

bEnableStoryManagerLogging =0

 

[imagespace]

bDoDepthOfField =1

iRadialBlurLevel = 2

 

[Display]

bDeferredShadows =1

iBlurDeferredShadowMask =3

fInteriorShadowDistance =3000.0000

fShadowDistance =8000.0000

iShadowMapResolutionSecondary = 1024

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary = 2048

iShadowSplitCount = 2

iMaxAnisotropy =0

fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd =4600.0000

fLeafAnimDampenDistStart =3600.0000

fTreesMidLODSwitchDist =8192.0000

fGamma =1.0000

fDecalLOD2 =1500.0000

fDecalLOD1 =1000.0000

fSpecularLODStartFade =2000.0000

fShadowLODStartFade =200.0000

fLightLODStartFade =3500.0000

iTexMipMapMinimum =0

iTexMipMapSkip =0

iWaterMultiSamples =0

iMultiSample =0

iShadowMode =3

bTreesReceiveShadows =1

bDrawLandShadows =1

bShadowsOnGrass =1

bFull Screen =1

iSize H =1080

iSize W =1920

fMeshLODFadePercentDefault =1.2000

fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault =256.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance =4096.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance =6144.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist =10000000.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist =10000000.0000

iScreenShotIndex =2

bShadowMaskZPrepass =0

bMainZPrepass =0

iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame =100

iMaxDecalsPerFrame =250

bFloatPointRenderTarget =1

sD3DDevice = "AMD Radeon R9 380 Series"

bFXAAEnabled =0

iShadowMapResolution =4096

fShadowBiasScale =0.1500

iShadowMaskQuarter =4

iAdapter = 0

iPresentInterval = 1

bFloatPointRenderTarget=1

iShadowFilter=3

bTransparencyMultisampling=0

bDrawShadows=1

 

[Grass]

b30GrassVS =1

fGrassStartFadeDistance =7000.0000

fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance =7000.0000

fGrassMinStartFadeDistance =0.0000

 

[MAIN]

bGamepadEnable =1

bCrosshairEnabled =1

fHUDOpacity =1.0000

bSaveOnPause =1

bSaveOnTravel =1

bSaveOnWait =1

bSaveOnRest =1

fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000

 

[GamePlay]

bShowFloatingQuestMarkers =1

bShowQuestMarkers =1

iDifficulty =3

 

[interface]

bDialogueSubtitles =1

bGeneralSubtitles =1

fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000

bShowCompass=1

 

[Controls]

fGamepadHeadingSensitivity =1.0000

fMouseHeadingSensitivity =0.0240

bAlwaysRunByDefault =1

bInvertYValues =0

bGamePadRumble =1

bMouseAcceleration = 1

bUseKinect=0

 

[Particles]

iMaxDesired =750

 

[saveGame]

fAutosaveEveryXMins =15.0000

 

[AudioMenu]

fAudioMasterVolume =1.0000

fVal7 =1.0000

uID7 =553853109

fVal6 =1.0000

uID6 =553853106

fVal5 =1.0000

uID5 =553854488

fVal4 =1.0000

uID4 =553853110

fVal3 =1.0000

uID3 =94881

fVal2 =0.4000

uID2 =466532

fVal1 =1.0000

uID1 =554685

fVal0 =0.8000

uID0 =1007612

 

[Clouds]

fCloudLevel2Distance =262144.0000

fCloudLevel1Distance =32768.0000

fCloudLevel0Distance =16384.0000

fCloudNearFadeDistance =9000.0000

 

[TerrainManager]

fTreeLoadDistance =75000.0000

fBlockMaximumDistance =250000.0000

fBlockLevel1Distance =70000.0000

fBlockLevel0Distance =35000.0000

fSplitDistanceMult =1.5000

bShowLODInEditor =0

 

[NavMesh]

fObstacleAlpha = 0.5000

fCoverSideHighAlpha = 0.8000

fCoverSideLowAlpha = 0.6500

fEdgeFullAlpha = 1.0000

fEdgeHighAlpha = 0.7500

fEdgeLowAlpha = 0.5000

fTriangleFullAlpha = 0.7000

fTriangleHighAlpha = 0.3500

fTriangleLowAlpha = 0.2000

fLedgeBoxHalfHeight = 25.0000

fEdgeDistFromVert = 10.0000

fEdgeThickness = 10.0000

fPointSize = 2.5000

 

[Trees]

bRenderSkinnedTrees =1

uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender =200

 

[Decals]

uMaxDecals =1000

bDecals = 1

bSkinnedDecals = 1

uMaxSkinDecals = 100

uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor = 60

 

[LOD]

fLODFadeOutMultObjects =15.0000

fLODFadeOutMultItems =15.0000

fLODFadeOutMultActors =15.0000

fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000

 

[Launcher]

bEnableFileSelection = 1

bShowAllResolutions = 1

uLastAspectRatio = 3

 

[blurShaderHDR]

bDoHighDynamicRange = 1

 

[blurShader]

bUseBlurShader = 0

 

[Water]

iWaterReflectHeight =1024

iWaterReflectWidth =1024

 

bUseWaterDisplacements=1

bUseWaterRefractions=1

bUseWaterReflections=1

bUseWaterDepth=1

 

enblocal.ini:

[PROXY]

EnableProxyLibrary=false

InitProxyFunctions=true

ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll

 

[GLOBAL]

UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=false

UseDefferedRendering=true

IgnoreCreationKit=true

 

[PERFORMANCE]

SpeedHack=true

EnableOcclusionCulling=true

 

[MEMORY]

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false

ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true

DisableDriverMemoryManager=true

DisablePreloadToVRAM=false

EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false

ReservedMemorySizeMb=512

VideoMemorySizeMb=4064

EnableCompression=false

AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false

 

[THREADS]

DataSyncMode=0

PriorityMode=0

EnableUnsafeFixes=false

 

[MULTIHEAD]

ForceVideoAdapterIndex=false

VideoAdapterIndex=0

 

[WINDOW]

ForceBorderless=false

ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false

 

[ENGINE]

ForceAnisotropicFiltering=true

MaxAnisotropy=16

ForceLodBias=false

LodBias=0.0

AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false

EnableVSync=true

VSyncSkipNumFrames=0

 

[LIMITER]

WaitBusyRenderer=false

EnableFPSLimit=false

FPSLimit=10.0

 

[iNPUT]

//shift

KeyCombination=16

//f12

KeyUseEffect=123

//home

KeyFPSLimit=36

//num /       106

KeyShowFPS=106

//print screen

KeyScreenshot=44

//enter

KeyEditor=13

//f4

KeyFreeVRAM=115

//B

KeyBruteForce=66

 

[ADAPTIVEQUALITY]

Enable=false

Quality=1

DesiredFPS=20.0

 

[ANTIALIASING]

EnableEdgeAA=false

EnableTemporalAA=false

EnableSubPixelAA=false

 

[FIX]

FixGameBugs=true

FixParallaxBugs=true

FixParallaxTerrain=false

FixAliasedTextures=true

IgnoreInventory=true

FixTintGamma=true

RemoveBlur=false

FixSubSurfaceScattering=true

FixSkyReflection=true

FixCursorVisibility=true

FixLag=false

 

[LONGEXPOSURE]

EnableLongExposureMode=false

Time=1.0

BlendMax=0.0

 

Before, while I was still loaded into the game, my distant terrain was.. well, missing and popping in. I had trees floating in the air, had to get closer to get the ground to render. I had a STEP core install running just fine without an ENB before, though my framerate wasn't completely smooth. I can't imagine ENB causing *this* much of a performance hit, and it doesn't explain why I'm sitting at ILS.

 

At this rate, I'm tempted to just say screw it, play a vanilla install, because I've got a machinima project this noncooperating game is holding up. I've been trying to get this particular set up working for two days. 

 

I'm pretty much at a loss, and have a feeling if this is how big of a problem a modded game is, my PC won't run Special Edition.

 

[Greg]

The way I did this was to configure SKSE's INI file to use Sheson's memory fix and then installed Crash Fixes without any changes. The default settings in the Crash Fixes INI file has the new memory allocation scheme disabled by default so so you'll need to use Sheson's memory fix.

 

EDIT: To be clear if you do want to use the Crash Fixes memory patch, you'll need to tweak the Crash Fixes INI file and the SKSE.ini file.

[Joat_Mon]

That is correct. You still need the other fixes in SKSE.ini. Crash Fixes allocates memory dynamically unlike the memory allocation method used by the game engine as patched by Sheson, which is why I think it is worth the extra effort.

Edited July 30, 2016 by Joat_Mon

[Sakiri]

Well, I'm starting the install.

 

Put the crash fixes in after I installed SKSE, didn't touch it's .ini. Sheson's fix is in.

 

Going to install Papyrus and the rest of the fixes from STEP and see where it runs.

[Sakiri]

Edit, fixed that one. I think

Edited July 30, 2016 by Sakiri

[Sakiri]

So it runs.

 

Was getting a solid  60 fps indoors and out.

 

ENB ate 20-30 off that.

 

The Enhanced Landscapes took another 10-15. 

 

This isn't playable at 20 fps.

 

Regenerating LODs at a lower quality now. I have a sneaking suspicion it's a combination of the grass and the ENB, which is incredibly disappointing because that aesthetic is crucial to what I'm wanting to do.

[Joat_Mon]

Lowering the impact of the grass should be ease to check. The ENB should not have hit you so  hard. Do you still have good frame rates indoors?

[Sakiri]

I just tried to rerun the installer without the grass enabled but MO is arguing with me about missing grass.esp.

 

Going to load in an older save from before the landscape mod and see what it looks like indoors.

 

Annnd....

CTD.

 

The missing masters list is even weirder on this one because it's stuff I haven't had installed since before I wiped everything so I think something got screwed up somewhere.

 

I *may* know what's up.

Edited July 30, 2016 by Sakiri

[Sakiri]

Uploading videos, got it to run without the grass. For whatever reason the output for the LOD textures and meshes was in an odd space and my dumb butt wasn't installing them right. Fixed the CTD.

 

I have three videos currently uploading from the Whiterun area. Outside headed north, inside the city and inside Jorrvaskr.

 

All running 55-60 fps solid until I turn on the ENB. Then it drops to 45 most of the time, but the interior Jorrvaskr went down to 25-30.

 

The DoF is kind of annoying as well, and this isn't playable. 

 

On top of it, on the exterior video you can see tree popping. It shouldn't be doing that.

[Sakiri]

Outside Whiterun:

https://youtu.be/d9SMnQ9t60M

 

The black frame in the middle of the ENB section I didn't even notice until I uploaded the video. I use MSI Afterburner, these are raw .avi. I need to find a new editor as Movie Maker isn't apparently available for Windows 10.

 

Inside Whiterun:

https://youtu.be/cssIzZ90eOE

 

Again with the black frame.  Any idea what this is?

 

Inside Jorrvaskr:

https://youtu.be/dt8o_cdx4rc

 

No black frame on that one.

 

I'm losing roughly 5-10 FPS from recording alone. That's to be expected. But the ENB for some reason is *wrecking* my framerate.

[Joat_Mon]

Looks a lot better. There are other members here that will know much more than me about the ENB you are trying to use. It sounds like you have a solid base to work off of now. I think Movie Maker is dead, would Blender work for what you want to do?

[Sakiri]

I have Blender installed but I haven't set out to play with it yet(installed it and Unity a while back >.>).

 

I have another program I downloaded to futz with. If I had an actual budget I'd just buy Vegas or something. I do gameplay videos and wanted to start machinima projects but I can't do any of the above without Skryim running at a decent pace.

 

I just know uploading raw .avi is.. horrible.  Sizes are way too big. I guess I could also move them to my win7 laptop which still has movie maker...I mostly used it for format conversion and annotations.

 

As an aside, in my previous STEP install, the grass wasn't a huge problem. I have plenty of screenshots and stuff from that, I ran with it perfectly for quite some time. 

 

I really think the big kill here is that ENB but I can't think of any other way to change the colors that way that'll show up on video. I had to stop using RCRN, for example, because it didn't show on video properly.

 

You've been great btw. I'm just mod stupid I think. :/ My normal solution is "throw a bigger GPU at it" but I can't afford that either(just finished a transcontinental move and I have a transatlantic one coming up).

[Joat_Mon]

The learning curve and capabilities of Blender are about the same as Vegas so I would just save the money. Win 10 is always going to be more problematic than Win 7 for 32bit Skyrim and even more so when you are trying to software capture video.

 

Skyrim benefits greatly from a modest CPU over clock, do you have a decent CPU cooling solution?

 

Some of the changes I make to Windows for Skyrim would kill your video editing software.

[Sakiri]

Stock cooler, and this CPU either can'tbe or is bad for oc. I'm not comfortable with it either.

 

It's in my dig, i5-4960 I think? Not at my desk. Not a K model either.

 

Theoretically i can just transfer the videos over to my laptop but these .Avis are huge.

 

I still need to figure out what I can do about this ENB, or if I can get a similar effect with less performance hit. It's the color effects I like. The depth of field is quite annoying personally.

[Joat_Mon]

If its just the color bias or saturation you're after you should be able to achieve the same result with out the ENB. That's not to says it won't be tedious to do but it will be less demanding on your system. Are you only using MSI Afterburner for the video capture feature?

[Sakiri]

Yes.

 

I have OBS Studio as well but it's more demanding on my system.

 

Afterburner is running anyway; it's regulating my system and GPU fans.