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Skyrim Revisited : Legendary Edition – Light?

I have installed Skyrim Revisited : Legendary Edition and am attempting to make a lighter version of it to play nice on my system. I know I must have missed a few things in my removal of some mods and changes to other mods (shifting patterns on some rock faces at close range most likely LOD issue). But am at a point where I could use some advice from a knowledgeable source or sources. It is asking for a lot, I know.

In case anyone is interested in assisting me here is what I have removed and what I have changed, along with other important data....

 

To start I installed the entire list choosing 1k or performance where I could, with the exception of replacing body, idol, and some armor mods. And the script lag was too heavy. So I started cutting.......

  1. REMOVED; DynDoLOD, Face to Face, Vividian ENB, Vivid Weathers ENB portion only, Wonders of Weather, Burn,Freeze,Shock, Footprints, KS-Hairdos-Renewal HDT Hair only, Project Parallax Revived, ENB Terrain Parallax Fix, Realistic Water 2 ENB portion only. I think that covers the removal.

  2. REINSTALLED: and rebuilt patch merges -ENB for ELE Light, Realistic Water 2, Vivid Weathers.

  3. Installed ENBoost in place of ENB per STEP wiki, Used BethINI to reconfigure my ini files

Below is my mod list with highlights indicating changes mentioned above and not mentioned above. (list pasted upside down, not sure how to flip it)

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

+JContainers_-49743-3-2-6

+PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions 3.2

+XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended HDT

+BodySlide and Outfit Studio – v3.7.4 <---------(Not SR:LE)

+FNIS Output

+Skyrim Revisited Legendary Edition BASH PATCH

+SKSE Output mashup for SR-LE

+SkyProcPatchers SUM DualsheathRedux and ASIS Output

+SUM - SkyProc Unified Manager

+Rebekah Follower <---------(Not SR:LE)

+BVFE - Better Vampire Fangs and Eyes <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Horse Stabling for Cities and Hearthfire-59146-1-3 <---------(Not SR:LE)

+No Enchantment Restrictions - SKSE No Conflict <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Vivace Follower+Hair Fix <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Toccata Follower <---------(Not SR:LE)

+NARC - No Animals Report Crimes <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Hunting Grounds UUNP Bodyslide HDT <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Hunting Grounds Outfit 2.0 <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Death Alternative - Your Money Or Your Life-7-0-1 <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Female Sultry Follower Voice Fix - Extensible Follower Framework v4.0.2-71869-1-0

+Bijin AIO-2016-3.1.1-Legendary

+Marriable Serana <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Serana Dialogue Edit <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Elysium Estate 4.1.1+HF addon no kids <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Hearthfire Extended - All DLCs (Legendary Edition)-66783-1-0-3 <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Nausicaa Tweaker 1 2 Main

+AddItemMenu - Ultimate Mod Explorer <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Perk Point Book – SKSE <---------(Not SR:LE)

+FileAccess Interface for Skyrim Script - FISS

+Modern Brawl Bug Fix v104

+Vivid Landscape - Animated Clutter Patch

+Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade Patch

+Auto Unequip Ammo Patch for EFF

-ELFX Parallax Meshes <---------(Not Active)

-Cutting Room Floor - No Snow Under the Roof Patch 1.5 <---------(Merged)

-CACO Soaps for Bathing in Skyrim 1.1 <---------(Merged)

+Moonlight Tales - Essentials - Version 2_51

+Better Vampires by Brehanin 7.2

+Simply Knock 1.0.8 Release

+Better Fast Travel v3.76 - Loose - Hearthfires

+Skyrim -Community- Uncapper v1_15_2_0

+Trade And Barter - Hearthfire-1-2

+Skyrim Coin Replacer Redux - Legendary Edition 1.2.2

+RealisticRoomRental-Enhanced+ELFX Patch

+Wiseman303's Trap Fixes 2.0b + Vivid Landscapes Merged Mesh

+VioLens - A Killmove Mod

+Traps Make Noise and Are Dangerous 2.1

+NPC Knockout Overhaul

+Dual Wield Parrying SKSE 3 1 beta

+iNeed - Food, Water and Sleep v1.602

+Frostfall - Hypothermia Camping Survival 3.1.1

+Campfire - Complete Camping System 1.8

+Bathing in Skyrim Merged

+Bathing in Skyrim

+Realistic werewolves - Feral werewolf Sounds 1.5

+Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2

+Lucidity Sound FX v1j

+Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade

+Clothing and Clutter Fixes 1.7

+Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade-1-7

+Complete Alchemy and Cooking Overhaul Patches

+Complete Alchemy and Cooking Overhaul-1-2

+Winter Is Coming - Cloaks 2.3+Small Textures <---------(Used small textures)

+Wearable Lanterns 4.0.2 Release

+JaySuS Swords V13C + v13D update

+Immersive Armors

+Craftable Horse Barding

+Cloaks of Skyrim 1-2

+Bandolier - Bags and Pouches v1dot2 + DG

+UNP Mashup Compilation <---------(Not SR:LE)

+UUNP Remodeled Slider Update 06-08-2016-69562-1-16 <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Remodeled Armor for UUNP BodySlide HDT – v1.14 <---------(Not SR:LE)

+NiOverride High Heels Fixes

+Lingerie Set for the UNPB BBP Body <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Lazyboy Dragonbone Marauder Armor UUNP Bodyslide-75902-1-01 <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Aradia Lace Dress - UNPB BBP v0.4 <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Ancient Draugr UUNP Bodyslide 1.01 <---------(Not SR:LE)

+RUSTIC CLOTHING - SKYRIM – 2K-1K <---------(Used 2k-1k)

+Nightingale Weapons Retexture - Carbon Fiber

+Nightingale Prime HD

+New Jewels for Circlets normals and Greyscale

+Improved Closefaced Helmets (Legendary Edition)-1-57

+Gemling Queen Jewelry - v4-1c

+EcthelionOtW Mage Equipment Overhaul

+EotW The Dawnguard - Textures Re-mastered

+Dragonborn Mages Robes Retexture Pack

+LeanWolfs Better-Shaped Weapons v2.0.06

+Better Circlets HQ 2K V1o1

+Apophysis Dragon Priest Masks 5.0a

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence

+aMidianBorn Blade of Woe

+Aetherial Crown 1.2

+A Lot of Dual Sheath Redux Patches

+LOTR Weapons by Isilmeriel <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Dual Sheath for JaySuS

+Dual Sheath Redux

+Ancient Draugr Armor Flat Boots <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Wet and Cold v2.02 <---------(Might Remove)

+Respectful Guard Animations + Patch for GD Overhaul

+RDO Patches Merged

+Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO v1.1

+OBIS - Organized Bandits In Skyrim 2.01 + Update 2.02

+Immersive Patrols DLC Aggressive 2.0.3

+Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul-65013-0-3-2

+Holidays

+High Level Enemies 1.6 SIC Edition

+Guard Dialogue Overhaul

+Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition

+ã€WWLMG】Greybeard Meditation - Dynamic

+Realistic Ragdolls and Force Reduced <---------(Used Reduced)

+No Spinning Death Animation v1 3 MERGED

+sexy idle Animation <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Feminine Running Animation v1-1 non BBP pack

+Female without BBB and Male Breathing Idles V0_1-7 <---------(Just Male)

+YY Anim Replacer - Lovely Shout <---------(Not SR:LE)

+SOS - Schlongs of Skyrim - Light – 1.04 <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Running Backward Speed Fix for Vanilla base speed <---------(Not SR:LE)

+Dual Wield Improved Animation 1.7

+Blocking

+Immersive Animations

+FNIS Creature Pack

+FNIS Behavior

+D13 Faster Get up Stand up animation

+ã€DSAMG】Dragon Soul Absorb More Glorious

+Victorias High Heel walk Animation plus BBP 13b LX

+RS Children Merged

+RS Children Patch for Falskaar

+RS Children Overhaul

-Better Males <---------(Not Active, replaced by SOS)

+Faces - GeonoxFaces

+XCE - Warpaint and Dirt + Beast Tints

+Northborn Scars 1.1

+High Res Vanilla Male and Female Blackblood Warpaints for SKSE

+High Res Male Face Makeup for SKSE

+The Eyes Of Beauty PLAYER

+SLF Hair - Rough Hair - Lite 1K

+More Realistic Hair 1.0

+KS Hairdos - Renewal 1.3 <---------(Removed Hair Physics)

+ASIS Patcher 1-42-5 Hacked

+Deadly Dragons Script Patch

+Brows Standard Resolution

+Beards Normal Resolution

+Skyrim Immersive Creatures v6 5 2b

+Deadly_Dragons

+Dawnguard Rewritten - Arvak

+Immersive Horses

+Horses Revamped - Animations

+Vampire Lord Armoured 3-1+Light face patch

+RUSTIC GARGOYLE – 2K-1K <---------(Used 2k-1k)

+RUSTIC DEATH HOUND – 2K-1K <---------(Used 2k-1k)

+PondFish and Salmon Replacer - texture

+Lepidoptera Of Skyrim for Complete Alchemy and Cooking Overhaul

+High-Res Dartwing (Dragonfly) Texture

+HD Horker

+HAPPY HORKER - 2K

+Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack

+Ancient Dwemer Metal 2-1K + Automatons <---------(Used 2k-1k)

+Blowing in the Wind

+aMidianBorn Imperial Forts 1k <---------(Used 1024)

+Spice Of Life - Forts 1.0.5 + Cusom ESP <---------(Used 1024)

+Farmhouse Chimneys Merge

+Farmhouse Chimneys

+Books of Skyrim

+SOUL v2 x1024

+Enhanced Blood Textures

+Deadly Spell Impacts Low <---------(Used Low)

+Alternate Summoning Visuals NO ESP

+Wiseman303's Flora Fixes + SMIM Patch

+WEBS extended Animated Clutter 1 9 compatibility patch

+WEBS extended v3 x1024 <---------(Used 1024)

+Vivid Landscapes - Castle Volkihar - Non-ENB patch-1-3 <---------(Used Non ENB)

+Vivid Landscapes - Castle Volkihar - ELFX Compatibility patch

+xVivid Landscapes - Castle Volkihar 1024 <---------(Used 1024)

+Vivid Landscapes - Tundra Ground from Skyrim HD 2k

+Vivid Landscapes - All in One - NON ENB patch for 1024 2.7 <---------(Used Non ENB)

+Vivid Landscapes - Moss Rocks - Compatibility Patch-2-8

+Vivid Landscapes - All in One - Smim Farmhouse stuff-2-7

+Vivid Landscapes - Enhanced Lights and FX Compatibility patch-2-7

+Vivid Landscapes - All in One - Loose Files 1024 2.8 <---------(Used 1024)

+Ultimate HD Fire Effects -Medium Resolution-1.9

+Upgrade and fix for TreesHD by Pfuscher <---------(Reduced Ordenador >2048)

+TreesHD Skyrim variation LOW NEW <---------(Used Low)

+OfficialHighResTexturePack - TelvanniArchitecture

+Skyrim Flora Overhaul v2.5b

+Serious HD Retexture LANDSCAPE 1024px <---------(Used 1024)

+RUSTIC NORDIC MURALS 1K <---------(Used 1024)

+RUSTIC MONUMENTS AND TOMBSTONES

+Realistic Water Two v1_11 med Merged <---------(Used Med, Non ENB)

+Realistic Water Two v1_11 med <---------(Used Med, Non ENB)

+RSE Medium v1_4

+Realistic Aspen Trees 3.4 1k <---------(Used 1024)

+Real Roads for Skyrim (Loose files) + DG,DB

+Real Ice v3

+Pilgrims Delight - Zul Do Dov

+Northfires Skidmarks and Dragons Footprint 1K combined <---------(Used 1024)

+No Snow Under The Roof Merge

+No Snow Under The Roof v2.3

+Moon Glow v1_01

+Lightning during Thunder Storms v23

+HQLODs - Meshes Hi-Res + Normals Orig 256x256

+HQ3DMap - Meshes Hi-Res + Normals Original

+HD Stone Quarry and Clay Deposit – HF-1K <---------(Used 1024)

+HDLODs All In One 512 V2

+HD Enhanced Terrain PRO - Blended Version

+Embers HD 1k <---------(Used 1024)

+Dynamic snow For Map Type 2

+DROPS 1.0 Optional x256 <---------(Used 256)

+Deathbell HD – 1K-1-1 <---------(Used 1024)

+Better Falskaar Map With Roads-1-1

+Ash Rocks 1.2.0 <---------(Used 1024)

+aMidianBorn Solstheim Land – 1k <---------(Used 1024)

+aMidianBorn Caves and Mines 2k

+A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads

+White Phial Replacer

+Weathered Road Signs v1.5

+The Notice Board Redefined 2K (Performance) <---------(Used 2048)

+Subliminal Traps 2.1 + Sovngard Edition

+Stunning Statues of Skyrim <---------(Used all 2k)

+Spice Of Life - Fences 1.0.7

+Spice Of Life - Barrels 1.0.5

+Septim HD 1 point 0

+RUSTIC SOULGEMS 1K – UNSORTED <---------(Used 1024)

+RUSTIC POTIONS and POISONS -1K <---------(Used 1024)

+RUSTIC OVEN - Hearthfires - SparrowDome Edition -1K <---------(Used 1024)

+RUSTIC ELDERSCROLL - 2K

+RUSTIC COOKING STATION 1K <---------(Used 1024)

+RUSTIC CLUTTER COLLECTION – 1K <---------(Used 1024)

+RUSTIC ALCHEMY and ENCHANTING TABLES 1K <---------(Used 1024)

+RUGNAROK - 1K-512 v1.5 <---------(Used 1k-512)

+Revamped Assets Skyrim

+Retexture for Soup SMIM Mesh - Poor v1.3

+Ren's HD Shrines by Rengel

+Realistic HD Food & Beverages - Havok Physics Fix

+Realistic HD Food xPERFORMANCE-0-22 <---------(Used Performance)

+Realistic Boat Bobbing

+PELTAPALOOZA – LITE-1-2 <---------(Used lite)

+HQ Paper-2-3

+Hold Border Banners-1-0

+Gemling Queen Dragon Claws - SOLID with REFRACTIONS v3-0

+Enhanced HD Dragon Bones 2k v1.6a

+EnchantingCandlesImproved_LeanWolf-1-1

+Easier Lockpicking 1 2 - Nordic Locks

+Dressed Hearthfire Doll

+Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library - DESATURATED-1-7

+Book Covers Skyrim 3 5 LEGENDARY - Desaturated

+Bloody Dragon Bones

+BLOODSTONE CHALICE REBORN 2K-1K

+LeanWolf's Better-Shaped and Armed Talos

+Barenziah's Glory

+animated clutter-1-9

+Relighting Skyrim FULL - Tailored for ELFX

+Enhanced Lights and FX

+NSM - SMIM Patch-45807-3-1-5

+B. NSM - FULL PACK v.4.0.2 Performance Edition <---------(Used Performance)

+Static Mesh Improvement Mod

+No stretching USKP compatible

+Enhanced Distant Terrian-11-1-1

+The Ruffled Feather v4.3.0 <---------(Used 1k stalhrim?)

+Enhanced Lighting For ENB Merged

+Vivid Weathers No ENB Merge <---------(Used NonENB)

+Vivid Weathers 1.39 NO ENB <---------(Used NonENB)

+Timing is Everything-2-02

+Thieves Guild Requirements-3-0

+The Paarthurnax Dilemma-1-2-9

+The Notice Board - Falskaar

+The Notice Board-2-2

+The Choice is Yours-1-6

+Provincial Courier Service-2-0-0

+Gildergreen Regrown

+Even Better Quest Objectives Merged

+Even Better Quest Objectives v1.5.7a

+Cutting Room Floor - Legendary Edition v2.0.2

+Alternate Start - Live Another Life-9557-3-1-5a

+Falskaar V1 2 1final

+Atlas Map Markers - Updated with MCM

+Atlas Map Markers for Skyrim Blackreach Dawnguard and Dragonborn

+Smaller Cursor

+Extensible Follower Framework v4-0-2

+Racemenue presets saves

+RaceMenu v3-4-5

+No Poison Dialogues

+AHZmoreHUD_v2_1_3

+Main Font Replacement Centar

+iWASM - Immersive Wait And Sleep Menu

+Immersive HUD - iHUD 3.0.03

+EZ2C Dialogue Menu - configurable - better navigation and control <---------(Replaces Better Dialog Controls)

+Better MessageBox Controls

+A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget v207

+SkyUI 5.1

+Skyrim Skill Interface Re-Texture v2.0

+Extended UI-1-2-0d

+Easy Wheel Menu-4-2

+Blocksteal Redux 1_5 + basket

+EatingSleepingDrinking - KuNeruNomu-

+WM Critter Fixes v1_06

+Smart Souls 90

+Skyrim Project Optimization

+Enhanced Camera 1.4

+Point The Way-1-0-8

+Horns Are Forever

+Follower Trap Safety 1.3

+Enchantment Reload Fix 1.2

+Dragon Stalking Fix

+Crash Fixes v11

+Bug Fixes v1

+Better Stealing 1_0

+Better Jumping 1.3

+Auto Unequip Ammo

+Unofficial High Resolution Patch

+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch-71214-3-0-5

+Skyrim Script Extender SKSE 1.7.3 scripts

+Cleaned Dragonborn ESM

+Cleaned Hearthfires ESM

+Cleaned Dawnguard ESM

+Cleaned Update ESM

+Optimized Vanilla Textures - HD Dragonborn

*Unmanaged: Dragonborn

+Optimized Vanilla Textures - HD HearthFires

*Unmanaged: HearthFires

+Optimized Vanilla Textures - HD Dawnguard

*Unmanaged: Dawnguard

+Optimized Vanilla Textures - HD

*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03

*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02

*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01

 

It plays fairly well but could be improved further like possibly removing Wet & Cold but I have not looked into what I may have to change because of it yet.

  I need advice on what LODs I should remove if any or if I should install some I may not have.  I think I might have missed Vanilla Skyrim LOD billboards.

  I am also running into a bathing issue with the washcloth and the tub bathing.  Washcloth only brings dirtiness down to the 1st level not to zero no matter where I use it.  Tubs won't reduce my cleanliness at all.  No issues with soap except for waterfall animation-which equips my armor before finishing the animation.

 As mentioned at the start, some..not all rock faces shift pattern even at close range.

 The fire burning on top of the Thalmor fort near Volkahar Castle has a static Smoke pane in the center...this was the same when I had STEP installed.

 

And lastly I would welcome any advice beyond what I have asked for if you think it might help.

System Info

 

OS; Windows 10 Pro

Motherboard; P8H61-M LE/CSM

Processor; Intel i3-3220 @3.30GHz

Ram; 16 GB

System Type; 64-bit OS, 64-based processor

Video Card; Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB

Driver Version; 358.91

Native Resolution; 1920x1200, 59Hz

 

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Try disabling SFO and see if you get a performance boost. Your Bathing in Skyrim observations are normal behavior for that mod.

My issue is not so much performance as in framerate but in script lag.  So I would think things like Dual sheath or ineed or Wet and Cold would be the more obvious choices here.   Why SFO?

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My issue is not so much performance as in framerate but in script lag.  So I would think things like Dual sheath or ineed or Wet and Cold would be the more obvious choices here.   Why SFO?

Just a guess. You only have 2GB VRAM so I am guessing your stutter is VRAM paging out to system RAM rather than script lag. SFO would be one of the big hitters on VRAM.

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Don't know anything about hardware, but I'm thinking my man Whetstone is probably right that your issue is VRAM and not script lag.  

 

Base SRLE is pretty tightly configured for script weight, and should even leave room for some additions - and it doesn't look like you're adding anything with active scripts.

 

That being said you can also use only textures from both EBT and DSI.  I'm not seeing BFS so assuming you've not installed, which is probably a good idea - apparently it's possible to use only the textures from that as well, though I've never tried.  Also, I've found in my own experience NPC KO to be a bit buggy... not exactly heavy hitting, but providing a decent amount of unexpected/unwanted behaviors - I do use many mods in addition to SRLE so it's possible that the issues came from them (It was definitely acting weird with Vigor's bleedout).  For my purposes I have removed it, and honestly haven't noticed much.  Probably a great mod for a thief/pacifist playthrough, other than that I don't see the point.

 

In order to do any of that, you will have to edit your SRLE CR - remove the corresponding entries and 'clean masters' or do your own and simply omit said entries.

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Well I will try these suggestions one at a time and see if that helps.  I appreciate the advice.

 

I too have experienced bizarre behaviors with knockout,  I really only thought it a good idea for certain things, for example one of the quests from Notice Board has you capture ...not kill a bandit....I thought "Oh ok some protection incase i crit hit him past the point of no return."  But beyond that one example, i agree with you, i don't see the point realy.  Well there is also one other benefit...Vampires...the blood potions extracted from corpses are stale (half as effective)...an unconscious enemy though...

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One note, I am going back through the guide again and checking all the mods to tease out problem areas,  I noticed that After taking out Skyrim Flora Overhaul v2.5b, I was unaware I needed to take out TreesHD Skyrim variation.  And also  Upgrade and Fix for TreesHD by Pfuscher.  Neither of these mods list :

Mod Dependencies(As Configured): Skyrim Flora Overhaul   However i think they should, are they not modifying assets from SFO?  I scanned for this to quickly find dependencies.  

 

This makes me think so.  Mod Notes: This mod is an add-on for "Skyrim Flora Overhaul" by Vurt with different trunks, which are more in the style of the original game.

 

Am I barking up the wrong tree on this?   ::):    

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And I have finally made it to the Merges section of the guide.....  I had hoped for this kind of information when I asked for help...but I understand that not everyone has the time or the desire to provide it to 100,000 unwashed masses.  It has also deepened my understanding of my own install and gave me a good reminder that no matter that it took me 3 days to install and configure, a second pass is mandatory.  

 

Should have removed these for Non-ENB ---> Parallax

 

+Vivid Landscapes - Moss Rocks - Compatibility Patch-2-8

+Vivid Landscapes - Tundra Ground from Skyrim HD 2k

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Should have removed these with Skyrim Flora Overhaul ---> Mod dependency I think

 

+Upgrade and fix for TreesHD by Pfuscher <---------(Reduced Ordenador >2048)

+TreesHD Skyrim variation LOW NEW <---------(Used Low)

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Discovered I had this mod installed instead of just the animations;

+EatingSleepingDrinking - KuNeruNomu- 

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Discovered i had not installed the NSUtR-Patch in;

+LeanWolf's Better-Shaped and Armed Talos

(May have reinstalled the main file to make a different choice for Lower/Higher Res and forgot to reapply the patch)

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Needed to rebuild Farmhouse Chimneys due to the Thinner Mesh Parallax Patch

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Needed to Reinstall Spice of Life - Forts to remove Parallax

and consequently aMidianBorn Imperial Forts, removing the impextwall01_p.dds file

 

NOTE: Not sure if that is a problem with the custom esp.....Not sure how to check either other than ask.

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I do still have lingering questions I hope someone can answer. 

 

The Note about the custom esp for one.  Though I am thinking I might be able to open it up with TES5Edit and look for a record of any _p.dds  At least that is what I imagine it would take.

 

The second and biggest question I have is what to do with all these LODs.

Should I leave them in?  Should/could I install DynDoLOD and run it say on low, then then remove Dyndolod and keep the LODs at the bottom?  (Not even sure what kind of file structure i would have to put them in but Possibly if I look at a few different LOD mods I might be able to figure it out.) Do I need to merge all these LODs with some other program? 

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Been a while since I used TreesHD/SFO - I use Enhanced Vanilla Trees and Enhanced Landscapes.

However I don't believe it is dependent on SFO, I believe it just includes meshes used in SFO;

VERY IMPORTANT:
You need the folder "meshes" and two textures (Vurt_Pine01,Vurt_Pine02) included in this pack (or alone in the optional file).This is the sames which is located in "Vurts_Skyrim_flora-Overhaul". Without, no variation (that's all).
 
The main file contains all you need !
 
You're correct that you probably don't need the two VL patches, though the 'Tundra Ground from Skyrim HD' is a texture optional and really down to preference.  
 
As for Spice of Life - Forts again I do not use as I really don't like the execution of that mod, but I don't think removing the parallax files is really important?  I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain it would function just fine without an ENB, and shouldn't affect your performance.
 
Don't know much about LOD's sorry.
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Been a while since I used TreesHD/SFO - I use Enhanced Vanilla Trees and Enhanced Landscapes.

However I don't believe it is dependent on SFO, I believe it just includes meshes used in SFO;

VERY IMPORTANT:
You need the folder "meshes" and two textures (Vurt_Pine01,Vurt_Pine02) included in this pack (or alone in the optional file).This is the sames which is located in "Vurts_Skyrim_flora-Overhaul". Without, no variation (that's all).
 
The main file contains all you need !
 
You're correct that you probably don't need the two VL patches, though the 'Tundra Ground from Skyrim HD' is a texture optional and really down to preference.  
 
As for Spice of Life - Forts again I do not use as I really don't like the execution of that mod, but I don't think removing the parallax files is really important?  I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain it would function just fine without an ENB, and shouldn't affect your performance.
 
Don't know much about LOD's sorry.

 

Thanks for the insite .  As far as Trees go I think I will try going with SFO Basic Edition v1.87, (Might be able to upgrade to regular), that should be fairly performace friendly.    As far as removing files with Parallax...I have only ever seen it mentioned with ENB  So I assume that I needed to remove it.   

 

While I did like the look of Tundra Ground from Skyrim HD I was a bit concerned about the 2k, there was no 1k option.   That said, with the other changes I have made I might be able to place it back AFTER SOME TESTING.  

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The biggest performance saver for me, has been to focus my mod use for a specific type of playthrough. 

I know its nice to have many options during a playthrough, but  you can really peel away at your load order if you limit yourself, here's a couple of basic examples:

 

Robe wearing mage - You can proberly skip Immersive Armors and other weapon and armor mods?

Vampire & Werewolfs - Maybe decide if you want if you want to be either and if so skip the other and maybe skip wearable lanterns and just use night-eye?

New quest mods - I usally limit my use of immersion mods(frostfall ect.) and maybe skip Immersive Creatures when the focus is try out the new quest's.

 

Besides that, if you do the reseach there are lighter alternatives(not as cool, but lighter) for alot of the mods you use like:

 

RS Children to Rustic Children

Deadly Dragons to Dragons Injector v1.5

Trade And Barter to Harder Trading

Ect.

 

It all comes down to what do you really need for your playthrough and what are you willing to sacrifice?

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Have you tried getting rid of the Wet and Cold and Dual Sheet Redux mods? I read somewhere that they sometimes cause a lot of papyrus lag. I'm having the same problem, the wheel menu take about 10 seconds to show up, so I've been thinking of trying that. Not that I want too, they're really cool mods.

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@runsbuns

Yeah, I am looking into lighter versions of some things and eliminating others.

 

@glundrux

Yeah I dropped both.  Trying to pack in all this goodness with my hardware is just not possible.  Well it is but I have to play very carefully.  I worry about overloading the hardware and breaking it. Can not afford to replace it yet.

 

 

Example: Without ENB, my GPU fluctuates between average 70 - 99%

With ENB it pretty much stays pegged at 99%.  This worries me. 

Every where I read it says to set Vram to 4064 for my 2gb card and win 10. (Vram test tool says the same) (With ENBoost or ENB)

I do not know if there is something I can do to change that.  Other than not using Vividian ENB

I also do not know if Depth of Field (DoF) helps to reduce Vram or not.  My guess is that it is just a filter screen, and the textures are still rendered completely behind the screen.?  If I am wrong then maybe a stronger DoF may help.

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More DoF will not help at all, if anything turning it down or completely off would work a lot better, it's a fairly resource intensive effect. It seems very strange that the tool says 4062 if you only have 2GB though, maybe it's counting regular ram too? I'm stuck on win 10 as well, and it's telling me the same number even though I got 8GB of vram, apparently it's a win 10 limitation. The tool says it might read regular ram too though, so maybe that's what's happening with you.

 

Like the poster above said, with a weaker rig you might wanna consider going without an ENB. There are some mods that gives a similar look without an ENB, not as good because all the effects are fake, but they look okay and are a lot less resource hungry. Dynavision for DoF for example if you like that effect, I'm not a big fan of it myself. Don't think you can get any reflection on water or anything, but you can tweak the colors for example, it won't be world space lighting like you get with an HDR and ENB but it could still look bright and colorful by upping the gamma and saturation. Didn't you say that it was the scripts that was lagging and not a fps drop though? I get 60fps easy, but the scripts like that wheel menu is still really slow, and sometimes conversations options and such take a long time before they show up. No drop in fps though, and my cpu and gpu are hardly doing anything.

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