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#16 Drexl

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Posted 24 August 2018 - 06:43 PM

For now I'll probably just leave it alone. I've spent several days preparing for this playthrough anyway. Possibly unrelated, but I noticed that the DynDolod log is listing BSHeartland.esm as a master for DynDOLOD.esm. This is probably showing my ignorance, but why is that happening if that worldspace isn't being touched at all by DynDOLOD?


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#17 sheson

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Posted 24 August 2018 - 07:06 PM

For now I'll probably just leave it alone. I've spent several days preparing for this playthrough anyway. Possibly unrelated, but I noticed that the DynDolod log is listing BSHeartland.esm as a master for DynDOLOD.esm. This is probably showing my ignorance, but why is that happening if that worldspace isn't being touched at all by DynDOLOD?

Worldspaces are not the only type of records that might require an overwrite and more importantly, the Bruma plugin also modifies other worldspaces like Tamriel. Border crossings and all...


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#18 Drexl

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Posted 24 August 2018 - 07:54 PM

Ah, of course. That's rather obvious in hindsight.


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Posted 18 August 2019 - 05:13 PM

Is it true that Bruma lod generation is problematic with DynDOLOD and SSELoden? Does that include objects, trees and terrain?

 

I am curious what the nature of the issue is that is true?


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#20 sheson

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Posted 18 August 2019 - 05:47 PM

Read the little Bruma section on the very the first post of https://forum.step-p...nd-enderal-269/


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#21 Soulmancer

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Posted 18 August 2019 - 10:33 PM

Hm, I'm still a bit confused... So there are/where issues with generating trees and objects according to a linked post? Is it still an issue if I'm using enhanced vanilla trees with its billboards?

 

and is it still an issue as I also read... "Fixed bug with generating object LOD for Bruma"  does this mean there is no longer any problem?

 

Was there / is there also a problem with terrain lod generation via SSElodgen?

 

I am using EVT for trees alongside Cathedral Landcapes for terrain


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#22 sheson

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Posted 19 August 2019 - 12:52 AM

The current available download of Beyond Skyrim - Bruma does not contains all data and assets that were used to generate the vanilla LOD.

 

xLODGen/DynDOLOD can only generate LOD for data that exists in the plugins and only with assets available in the load order.

 

Realistically only the Beyond Skyrim mod team can do anything about it.

 

xLODGen/DynDOLOD will generate LOD for the data and with the assets that do exist just fine. Tree LOD in the unreachable south will use wrong trees. Object LOD will have less objects, especially in the south.


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#23 Soulmancer

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Posted 19 August 2019 - 08:49 AM

Thanks, just to confirm

1. No issues with generating terrain then?
2. Do I still need Bruma billboards if I use EVT?
3. I should generate trees n terrain but not objects then?
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#24 sheson

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Posted 19 August 2019 - 09:07 AM

The current available download of Beyond Skyrim - Bruma does not contains all data and assets that were used to generate the vanilla LOD.

 
If generating object LOD, the map and the larger lod levels will miss some objects to the south which are part of the included object LOD. Unfortunately the missing cell data does not cut off at a 32 cell group, so there is an obvious gab when it is known what to look for.

 

This obviously applies to all LOD types. Missing terrain LOD will be very double extra obvious. DynDOLOD does not generate terrain LOD.
 
If you want LOD for a tree it needs a matching billboard. Bruma adds its own type of trees, so they need billboards. They are supplied by the listed Beyond Skyrim - Bruma Tree LOD billboards by mobiusbelmont


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#25 Soulmancer

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Posted 19 August 2019 - 10:02 AM

Thx, one last question. If I am using Cathedral Landscapes https://www.nexusmod...tion/mods/21954.

There is an optional file for terrain lod gen. Bruma uses vanilla terrain so it would be replaced bt cathedral, but would these lods not work for bruma? Is the missing data in the plugin also problematic for terrain?
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Posted 19 August 2019 - 10:38 AM

If a vanilla file is replaced by a mod, then everything using that vanilla file is equally affected. If a mod changes landscape textures, then any every terrain in every world using that texture will be equally affected.

 

Missing data will cause gabs in the LOD. This obviously applies to all 3 LOD types, which are terrain, object and tree LOD. Missing terrain LOD will be very double extra obvious.


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#27 Soulmancer

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Posted 19 August 2019 - 11:43 AM

Gotcha, so essentially with the current version of Bruma, you should only generate trees. So get the EVT billboards + the Bruma billboards.  and don't generate objects or terrain.

 

So I guess I just run dyndlolod once specifically from Bruma with only trees.  And then run it again for objects and trees on everything else?


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#28 sheson

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Posted 19 August 2019 - 01:08 PM

This is what is asked and answered in the linked thread https://forum.step-p...quick-question/


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Posted 19 August 2019 - 06:12 PM

On it! upon generating the lod do I still leave the billboards enabled in MO2 or can I disable them? or does it not matter?


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Posted 20 August 2019 - 03:13 AM

It doesn't matter.


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