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[SSE] CTD after reloading a Save in any cell past a certain point in playthough


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Anyone able to help, been stuck with this problem for a while now. Simply put, when my game plays to a certain point, any saving and subsequent loading of the save would cause skyrim to freeze and CTD, anyone able to help? Had this issue only throughout my playthough.
 
Notable fixes i've tried: SSE Engine Fixes, checked my save to see if i need to clean it - theres nothing to clean 
 
This was the "long" version after i cleared a zone and CTDed after saving at temple of talos : https://youtu.be/7HUvmr6ACjE
 
Short version was loading a non CTD save and crashing at windhelm. So basically travelling to windhelm causes a CTD although i travelled away from there from my "long" verson: https://youtu.be/8oy_YTWAllc
 
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm at my wits end on what is causing this weird bug

Additional notes: Proceeding to any interior cell or fast travelling will replicate the abovementioned bug. If i remain in "outside" skyrim, I can go wherever I please without causing the CTD.
LOOT load order:

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
  6  6     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  7  7     ApachiiHair.esm
  8  8     ApachiiHairMales.esm
  9  9     BSAssets.esm
 10  a     LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
 11  b     BSHeartland.esm
 12  c     BS_DLC_patch.esp
 13  d     Campfire.esm
 14  e     RaceCompatibility.esm
 15  f     Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
 16 10     Falskaar.esm
 17 11     TravellersOfSkyrim.esm
 18 12     RE_RealEstate_Core.esp
 19 13     SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm
 20 14     UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
 21 15     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 22 16     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 23 17     AchieveThat_SE_en.esp
 24 18     EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
 25 19     ELFX - Exteriors.esp
 26 1a     Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
           Rigmor.esp
 27 1b     WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp
 28 1c     WARZONES - SSE - DLC - Assault Attack.esp
 29 1d     JRWZAABrumaCompPatch.esp
 30 1e     SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp
 31 1f     Vivid WeathersSE.esp
 32 20     icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
 33 21     Lakeview_Extended.esp
 34 22     BlackthornManor.esp
 35 23     ELFX - NoPlayerHomes.esp
 36 24     Helgen Reborn.esp
 37 25     Eli_Breezehome.esp
 38 26     OBIS SE.esp
 39 27     Ambriel.esp
 40 28     Combat Evolved.esp
 41 29     Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
 42 2a     YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp
 43 2b     Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
 44 2c     SoS_ELFX_Patch.esp
 45 2d     SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
 46 2e     MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
 47 2f     RE_RealEstate.esp
 48 30     Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
 49 31     MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp
 50 32     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 51 33     Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp
 52 34     marriagemod - alpha v3.esp
 53 35     Holidays.esp
           SOS_RLOInteriors_Patch.esp
 54 36     EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
 55 37     zMirai.esp
 56 38     TheScarlett.esp
 57 39     Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
 58 3a     Cloaks.esp
 59 3b     Cooking_In_Skyrim_v_2_0_Salty_Edition.esp
 60 3c     RiversideLodge.esp
 61 3d     Inigo.esp
 62 3e     Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp
 63 3f     fallentreebridgesSSE.esp
 64 40     HeljarchenFarm.esp
 65 41     WindstadMine.esp
 66 42     Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp
 67 43     SkyfallEstate.esp
 68 44     Immersive Patrols II.esp
 69 45     Skyshards.esp
 70 46     flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp
 71 47     SofiaFollower.esp
 72 48     SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
 73 49     Deus Mons.esp
 74 4a     EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
 75 4b     HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp
 76 4c     PatronGodsOfSkyrim.esp
 77 4d     Housecarls Have Lives.esp
 78 4e     Storefront.esp
 79 4f     Recorder Follower Base.esp
 80 50     Aesthetic Elisif.esp
 81 51     ElysiumEstate.esp
 82 52     notice board.esp
 83 53     ForgottenCity.esp
 84 54     Halls Of Dovahndor SSE.esp
 85 55     TradeRoutes.esp
 86 56     alcoholiceffect.esp
 87 57     BetterQuestObjectives.esp
 88 58     Immersive Weapons.esp
 89 59     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 90 5a     Dual Blocking for Idiots v1.35d.esp
 91 5b     Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
 92 5c     Ars Metallica.esp
 93 5d     The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
 94 5e     House Map Markers Legendary.esp
 95 5f     ArturiaSwords.esp
 96 60     ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp
 97 61     j3x-autocrossbows.esp
 98 62     HothFollower.esp
 99 63     Nemain.esp
100 64     moonpath.esp
101 65     Shadowmourne SE - Johnskyrim.esp
102 66     giftsofakatosh.esp
103 67     Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
104 68     Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
105 69     azelfollower.esp
106 6a     Dr_Bandolier.esp
107 6b     SkyrimRecycling.esp
108 6c     Batch Crafting Recipes SE.esp
109 6d     Bijin NPCs.esp
110 6e     ScopedBows.esp
111 6f     Bijin Warmaidens.esp
112 70     Bijin Wives.esp
113 71     CaesiaFollower.esp
114 72     Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
115 73     Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
116 74     CuttingRoomFloorRemoveAltArmorEffect.esp
117 75     DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
118 76     SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrimSE.esp
119 77     dragonslayerarrows - temper.esp
120 78     DynamicDungeonLoot.esp
121 79     EC Clothes.esp
122 7a     ElementalArrows.esp
123 7b     Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
124 7c     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
125 7d     dD-Medium Script Range.esp
126 7e     CharacterMakingExtender.esp
127 7f     BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
128 80     BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
129 81     FollowerWander2.esp
130 82     FNIS.esp
131 83     HarvestOverhaul_Redone_Creatures.esp
132 84     HOR_OrdinatorPatch.esp
133 85     HelmetToggle.esp
134 86     HothFollower UFO Patch.esp
135 87     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
136 88     VisualAnimatedEnchants.esp
137 89     ImprovedDaedricArtifacts.esp
138 8a     imp_helm_legend.esp
139 8b     InfinityBlade.esp
140 8c     Insignificant Object Remover.esp
141 8d     Ish's Souls to Perks.esp
142 8e     KS Dragon Overhaul.esp
143 8f     Luna_GoV.esp
144 90     LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp
145 91     LeftHandRings.esp
146 92     Lionheart - Johnskyrim.esp
147 93     SprintStaminaDrain.esp
148 94     MannequinStayPut.esp
149 95     Master of Disguise - Special Edition.esp
150 96     Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
151 97     Move it Dammit.esp
152 98     Multiple Enchantments - Ordinator Patch.esp
153 99     sandboxcylinderheight.esp
154 9a     Nerida.esp
155 9b     Runandwalkpaces.esp
156 9c     dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
157 9d     OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp
158 9e     Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
159 9f     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
160 a0     XPMSE.esp
161 a1     dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp
162 a2     ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp
           ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp
163 a3     Serana.esp
164 a4     Simple AUA.esp
165 a5     SimplyKnock.esp
166 a6     Skycutter.esp
167 a7     SkyUI_SE.esp
168 a8     GuildStarter.esp
169 a9     BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
170 aa     Ember_Sword.esp
171 ab     TKDodge.esp
172 ac     TradeRoutes-HelgenReborn-Patch.esp
173 ad     TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn and Bags and Pouches Addon.esp
174 ae     TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
175 af     Unique Uniques.esp
176 b0     UnreadBooksGlow.esp
177 b1     EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
178 b2     VioLens SE.esp
179 b3     Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp
180 b4     Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp
181 b5     Vivid Weathers SE - Falskaar.esp
182 b6     Vivid Weathers SE - SOS Patch.esp
183 b7     Warglaive of Azzinoth.esp
184 b8     WetandCold.esp
185 b9     SoS_VividWeathers_Patch.esp
186 ba     AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp
187 bb     Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
188 bc     AKA_LeftHandRings_Patch.esp
189 bd     Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
190 be     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
191 bf     TheChoiceIsYours.esp
192 c0     RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
193 c1     RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
           RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
194 c2     CFTO.esp
           Immersive Citizens - TC patch.esp
195 c3     My Home Is Your Home.esp
196 c4     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
197 c5     Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
198 c6     BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
199 c7     Bashed Patch, 0.esp



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InitProxyFunctions=true
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[PERFORMANCE]
SpeedHack=true
 
[ENGINE]
ForceVSync=true
VSyncSkipNumFrames=0
 
[LIMITER]
EnableFPSLimit=true
FPSLimit=59.0
 
[iNPUT]
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KeyUseEffect=123
KeyFPSLimit=36
KeyShowFPS=106
KeyScreenshot=44
KeyEditor=13
KeyDof=118
 
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Hard to tell what exactly is crashing you, did u convert all the meshes and esp's for SSE?

One thing i noticed - is your modlist sorted alphabetically? In your video its sorted by priority, but it looks like u sorted them alphabetically by hand - doesnt matter if u know what your are doing, if the right mods are sorted the right way.

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Hard to tell what exactly is crashing you, did u convert all the meshes and esp's for SSE?

 

One thing i noticed - is your modlist sorted alphabetically? In your video its sorted by priority, but it looks like u sorted them alphabetically by hand - doesnt matter if u know what your are doing, if the right mods are sorted the right way.

 

 

Hi, Thanks for responding!

 

1) I didn't convert any mesh and ESP for SSE, all the mods i downloaded was in the nexus forums which were already for SSE :)

2) the modlist was sorted alphebatically, but the load order was adjusted automatically via LOOT. It was alphabetically because this was a 2nd playthough and my profile was a new one (the first one had the same issue). Is there a problem with that though? 

 

Much appreciated :)

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It can cause a lot of problems, you should sort these mods depending on overwrites.
And there are several other Problems not only because of wrong overwrites, u have no bashed patch & no conflict-resolutions.

 

The only thing i can really recommend u right now is to start from scratch, maybe even use a guide.

Right now we have 2 really good SSE guides here on the forums:

Tech's Skyrim Special Edition Guide v2

Lexy's Legacy of The Dragonborn Special Edition

 

Techs guide is more basic, STEP-like - Lexy's Guide is a little bit of everything.

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It can cause a lot of problems, you should sort these mods depending on overwrites.

And there are several other Problems not only because of wrong overwrites, u have no bashed patch & no conflict-resolutions.

 

The only thing i can really recommend u right now is to start from scratch, maybe even use a guide.

Right now we have 2 really good SSE guides here on the forums:

Tech's Skyrim Special Edition Guide v2

Lexy's Legacy of The Dragonborn Special Edition

 

Techs guide is more basic, STEP-like - Lexy's Guide is a little bit of everything.

 

Thanks, i'll take a look at them. So to clarify, I need to sort my mods based on overwrited?

 

I do have a bashed patched however, its the last in my load order. 

 

Lastly, after sorting out MO's conflicts, would I be able to continue my playthrough? Or would I have to make a new one? Because I didnt change any scripts within the playthrough.

 

I also seem to have minimal conflicts? I think? https://prntscr.com/k4u5tp

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Well that are only overwrites, u have to find out for yourself whats needs to go up or down in the modlist.

But if Mods are conflicting u have to downloads patches for that, or build a Conflict-Resolution with xEdit or MatorSmash. U have a lot of Mods, and this is probably why u are crashing.

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