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#1 bhorton22

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 04:44 PM

I have searched for information on this and can't find anything. Was wondering if someone can shed some light:

 

Say you have mod A that changes a cell in Skyrim. Then you load Mod B AFTER mod A and mod B changes the cell back to Default Skyrim (i.e. the end result is there is no change to the cell). Mod B does have an identical to master record but because you are loading MOD A before it TES5Edit does not report it and the record is not cleaned. This may be a good or a bad thing although it can be resolved by load order. 

 

However (and this is my real question):

 

Say you have Mod B loaded in your load order. You run TES5Edit and it reports it as identical to master and you clean it, the change to the cell is removed. But, I play Skyrim, a new mod comes out I want to try. I decide I am going to start a new Character from the beginning and put this new mod in my load order (we will call it Mod A). I load Mod A before Mod B. Mod A changes the cell, it would have been reverted back to original Skyrim if I had left Mod B alone, but because I cleaned Mod B it won't be reverted back and I probably would never know because I'm not exactly keeping a list of all the changes made by Tes5Edit when I clean my mods.

 

So, besides keeping a copy of the original mod and re-cleaning each mod every time I introduce a new mod, is there any other way around this?


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Posted 29 December 2018 - 05:15 PM

When you clean a mod of ITMs and UDRs, run TES5Edit and shift+double click on the mod you want to clean. This loads the mod you want to clean and its masters, so it basically eliminates the issue you are discussing.



#3 bhorton22

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 05:27 PM

No, you misunderstand what I am trying to get at. I have already loaded the mod (Mod B) and it's masters. Cleaned the mod of ITM's and UDR's and played skyrim with the Mod in my load order with no problems. The problem comes when you introduce a new mod (Mod A) that changes the ITM records that you just cleaned (and removed). I have no way of knowing this and now I can't see any conflicts (which I would have had I not cleaned Mod B) and I can't make an informed decision on my load order.


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#4 bhorton22

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 05:34 PM

Basically you get two different results:

 

If I:

 

Load Mod A (in my load order) followed by:

Load Mod B.

 

Mod A changes a cell and Mod B reverts it back to original Skyrim, run Tes5Edit nothing will be cleaned.

 

However, if I only load Mod B then the cell change will be cleaned (removed). I then later on introduce Mod A (and load it before Mod B) and run Tes5Edit, again nothing will be cleaned but the Cell will end up looking different than if I had left everything alone and not cleaned anything at all (which is what I wanted the final result to be - no change to the cell). The only way to do this for sure is to keep track of the mods I cleaned and the changes made. Unless I am missing something.


Edited by bhorton22, 29 December 2018 - 05:37 PM.

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