Kappaccino Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Removing the deleted navmeshes and cleaning the DLC ESMs is listed early on in the guide, and links to GamerPoet's playlist on YouTube. I noticed recently that his "Introduction" video has a pinned comment from him advising people to not follow these steps until after all the modding in the guide has been done, since mods that touch the deleted navmeshes could cause a CTD if they're cleaned prior to install. I'd like some advice on the matter, since I respect both Kelmych's and GamerPoet's opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelmych Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 I hadn't heard this before; it could be correct. GamerPoet got his information about the deleted navmeshes from Roy Batty who is the expert on this aspect of Fallout 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kappaccino Posted May 26, 2019 Author Share Posted May 26, 2019 I hadn't heard this before; it could be correct. GamerPoet got his information about the deleted navmeshes from Roy Batty who is the expert on this aspect of Fallout 3.I love Roy. If you could talk with him about the topic at hand, I would like to hear what he thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sattyre Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 is there any new info on this. I am having a really difficult time pinning down the cause of ctds and freezing. For the record, a friend sent me the two esms with the navmesh fixed, but uncleaned, from his own game, and I then cleaned all the DLC in sequence and then did the rest of the modlist. I also unfortunately used Xedit version 4.0.3 to clean them and apparently that version of xedit created some kind of rendering issue with the FO3 DLCs. That last info, i got directly from the XEdit discord. I have upgraded to the still experimental 4.0.3b which doesn't have the issue. This issue didn't exist in Xedit 4.0.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazda Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 On 5/2/2020 at 2:58 AM, sattyre said: is there any new info on this. I am having a really difficult time pinning down the cause of ctds and freezing. For the record, a friend sent me the two esms with the navmesh fixed, but uncleaned, from his own game, and I then cleaned all the DLC in sequence and then did the rest of the modlist. I also unfortunately used Xedit version 4.0.3 to clean them and apparently that version of xedit created some kind of rendering issue with the FO3 DLCs. That last info, i got directly from the XEdit discord. I have upgraded to the still experimental 4.0.3b which doesn't have the issue. This issue didn't exist in Xedit 4.0.2 Aware of necroing....but the Guide is still present and sadly not updated UFO3P description page specifically states that the official ESMs should not be cleaned, nor the deleted navmeshes should be fixed. UFO3P will override these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP23wolf Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Gazda, But if I was to use the latest version of UFO3P how do I know what mods in Kelmych list is obsolete? Because the people suggested to use FO3Edit to fix conflicts. So back to watching Gpoher's video from 2012 on Youtube on how to fix conflicts: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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