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#1 Alastor

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Posted 01 August 2019 - 11:33 AM

I am starting a new game, when i using DynDolod i have many ctds and ils.

 

I cannot load my save game (the game crash quickly if i try).

 

I using MO 1 to manage the mods, but i have to use DynDOLOD 64 bits trought MO2 because the 32 bits version is always failed for a problem memory.

 

What could be a problem?

 

What can i do to resolve it?

 

 


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 02:09 PM

Update With my DynDOLOD Settings and a last Log:

 

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Last time i have  only selected Tamriel (Skyrim) - Skyrim.esm

 

At this point, the game seems to work well.

 

The log at this moment:

 

https://mega.nz/#!UJ...5BLDHPbmbSk7qZ8


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 04:21 PM

FAQ: Game: ILS or CTD
 
A: More LOD uses more memory and this can cause infinite loading screen (ILS) or crash to desktop (CTD) if the game is not setup correctly. This should generally not be a problem with Skyrim Special Edition or Skyrim VR, but for Skyrim double check heap memory usage (block 1) with Memory Blocks Log from https://www.nexusmod...rim/mods/50471/ and adjust SKSE or SSME memory settings. Or use the alternative OSAllocator from crash fixes with pre-loader. Remove satefy-load if it is used. Setup ENBoost correctly. Set ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false in enblocal.ini. 
 
A: Do not use the experimental TreeFullFallBack setting without understanding what it does and what it is for. 
 
A: If heap memory is not the cause of CTD see ..DynDOLOD\Docs\DynDOLOD-README.txt for checking if a missing or invalid nif model used for dynamic LOD is the cause. 

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Posted 01 August 2019 - 07:27 PM

Thanks for your help.

 

My last step: Running DynDOLOD with Skyrim.esm Worlds, Dragonborn Worlds and Dawnguard Worlds.

 

Last Log here: https://mega.nz/#!hc...ZO2HORkEJuYpb-g

 

At this moment the game works fine. I can load the save games and y do not have crashes or infinity load screens.

 

I do not to use Safety Load.

 

I do not to use Memory Blocks Log.

 

I using Crash Fixes and SKSE plugin preloader.

 

About memory I suppose you are talking about this:

 

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That is the interior of the Lost Echo Cave.

 

Next Steps:

 

Increase Custom Memory Blocks in crash fixes.

 

Run DynDOLOD with Skyrim.esm, Dawnguard.esm, Dragonborn.esm, Ayleid Citaded.esp, Raven Castle.esp and GomaPeroLand.esp


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Posted 02 August 2019 - 12:15 AM

The list is missing ENBoost.


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Posted 02 August 2019 - 08:05 AM

Yes, i am using ENBoost and ExpandSystemMemoryX64 = false

 

My last log, i am using 

 

Skyrim

Dawnguard

Dragonborn

Armery Manor

Raven Castle

Ayleid Citadel

GomaPeroLand

 

At this moment the game works fine, i can load the save games and i do not have ctd or ils.

 

https://mega.nz/#!4J...vsLT_j44gMN6BgA

 

 


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Posted 02 August 2019 - 12:25 PM

Update.

 

I've done many tests. I am pretty sure that is not a memory problem.

 

The problem seems the mod Beyond Reach or the Patch DynDOLOD for it:

 

My last Log until here: https://mega.nz/#!QY...hCD1Y6zPgT9WG8s

 

I will do two more tests: With Patch and without patch.

 

What is that patch for? What does?

 

At the beginning, the patch had two folders: For "arnima.esm" and for "arnima.esp".

I have deleted the "arnima.esp" folder because i use the esm version.

 

 

 


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Posted 02 August 2019 - 03:20 PM

The fomod installer or package.txt explain what each patch contains.

 

"01 Beyond Reach contains a couple tree LOD billboards."


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Posted 11 August 2019 - 02:36 PM



The fomod installer or package.txt explain what each patch contains.

 

"01 Beyond Reach contains a couple tree LOD billboards."

 

 

Thanks. After a many tests, i have discovered the patch for beyond reach was the problem.

When i deleted "arnima.esp" folder the problems fixed.

 

Of course, i still have some CTD because memory out, I consider it normal because i use many, many mods to adds new lands. One  or Two CTD per day is not a hard problem.

 

Now, i have another problem and this time i am pretty sure that DynDOLOD is the problem.

 

I have a CTD always in the same place when the player walk around that place.

 

I think that DynDOLOD is the problem because if i disable DynDOLOD Plugin, textures and Output the problem is gone.

 

The place is....relative,  i do not know what is the problem or where.

 

I put on here some pictures and some information:

 

Information DynDOLOD:

 

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Picture of place:

 

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CTD Just before reaching the tree

 

Picture of the map location:

 

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Posted 12 August 2019 - 01:36 AM

FAQ: Game: ILS or CTD

 
A: More LOD uses more memory and this can cause infinite loading screen (ILS) or crash to desktop (CTD) if the game is not setup correctly. This should generally not be a problem with Skyrim Special Edition or Skyrim VR, but for Skyrim double check heap memory usage (block 1) with Memory Blocks Log from https://www.nexusmod...rim/mods/50471/ and adjust SKSE or SSME memory settings. Or use the alternative OSAllocator from crash fixes with pre-loader. Remove satefy-load if it is used. Setup ENBoost correctly. Set ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false in enblocal.ini. 
 
A: Do not use the experimental TreeFullFallBack setting without understanding what it does and what it is for. 
 
A: If heap memory is not the cause of CTD see ..DynDOLOD\Docs\DynDOLOD-README.txt for checking if a missing or invalid nif model used for dynamic LOD is the cause. 
 
A: Large load orders with many plugins might surpass the reference handle cap. SSE Engine fixes prints a warning. See https://www.reddit.c...gnosing_one_of/ Setting Temporary=1 in ..DynDOLOD\Edit Scripts\DynDOLOD\DynDOLOD_[GameMode].ini may help in these situations, however converting large new land plugins to ESM is the preferred solution. 

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Posted 12 August 2019 - 06:48 AM

Thanks for the help.

 

It is not exactly a CTD, The game freezes and the game wants to close (A message appears on the screen).

 

This always happens in the same place.

 

I do not know where the option experimental "TreeFullFallBack". A picture with my settings DynDOLOD is at the first message.

 

Is it normal that the plugin DynDOLOD.esp has more than 500 errors?

 

For now, i have uninstalled DynDOLOD following the instructions of the readme file and i will try again.


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Posted 12 August 2019 - 07:13 AM

FAQ: Game: ILS or CTD
 
A: More LOD uses more memory and this can cause infinite loading screen (ILS) or crash to desktop (CTD) if the game is not setup correctly. This should generally not be a problem with Skyrim Special Edition or Skyrim VR, but for Skyrim double check heap memory usage (block 1) with Memory Blocks Log from https://www.nexusmod...rim/mods/50471/ and adjust SKSE or SSME memory settings. Or use the alternative OSAllocator from crash fixes with pre-loader. Remove satefy-load if it is used. Setup ENBoost correctly. Set ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false in enblocal.ini. 
 
A: Do not use the experimental TreeFullFallBack setting without understanding what it does and what it is for. 
 
A: If heap memory is not the cause of CTD see ..DynDOLOD\Docs\DynDOLOD-README.txt for checking if a missing or invalid nif model used for dynamic LOD is the cause. 
 
A: Large load orders with many plugins might surpass the reference handle cap. SSE Engine fixes prints a warning. See https://www.reddit.c...gnosing_one_of/ Setting Temporary=1 in ..DynDOLOD\Edit Scripts\DynDOLOD\DynDOLOD_[GameMode].ini may help in these situations, however converting large new land plugins to ESM is the preferred solution. 
 
 
 
FAQ: Checking for errors in DynDOLOD.esp or DynDOLOD.esm with xEdit
 
A: .. \ Record Flags -> <Unknown: 6> are intentional and can be ignored. 
 
A: Any other error indicates a problem that should be reported to https://forum.step-p...ndolod-supportĀ 

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Posted 12 August 2019 - 07:59 AM

Thanks, i will try a new installation and i check the logs and readmes files.


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