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Pickpocket trainers: “There is nothing more I can teach you�


CatWhisperer

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I just started a new game and pickpocket, sneak, and lockpick trainers tell me that "there is nothing more I can teach you" despite me having the starting stats for level 1 in those skills.  Here is my load order:

 

0  0     Skyrim.esm

  1  1     Update.esm

  2  2     Dawnguard.esm

  3  3     HearthFires.esm

  4  4     Dragonborn.esm

  5  5     Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

  6  6     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

  7  7     Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

  8  8     WM Flora Fixes.esp

  9  9     BSAssets.esm

 10  a     BSHeartland.esm

 11  b     BS_DLC_patch.esp

 12  c     FarmhouseChimneys.esp

 13  d     Vigilant.esm

 14  e     HighResTexturePack01.esp

 15  f     HighResTexturePack02.esp

 16 10     HighResTexturePack03.esp

 17 11     Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

 18 12     Cutting Room Floor.esp

 19 13     BetterQuestObjectives.esp

 20 14     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

 21 15     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

 22 16     Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

 23 17     Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

 24 18     Lepidoptera Of Skyrim DLC1.esp

 25 19     Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

 26 1a     FISS.esp

 27 1b     Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

 28 1c     Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp

 29 1d     NARC.esp

 30 1e     RelightingSkyrim_Legendary.esp

 31 1f     Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp

 32 20     XPMSE.esp

 33 21     iHUD.esp

 34 22     Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

 35 23     AHZmoreHUD.esp

 36 24     RaceMenu.esp

 37 25     RaceMenuPlugin.esp

 38 26     SkyUI.esp

 39 27     ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp

 40 28     Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp

 41 29     Vividian - Extended Weathers.esp

 42 2a     IcePenguinWorldMap.esp

 43 2b     Footprints.esp

 44 2c     Beards.esp

 45 2d     Brows.esp

 46 2e     NB-Scars.esp

 47 2f     ORM-Arvak.esp

 48 30     WSCO - OcciFemaleVNL.esp

 49 31     Elemental Staves.esp

 50 32     GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp

 51 33     Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

 52 34     Paralyze.esp

 53 35     BFSEffects.esp

 54 36     DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp

 55 37     DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

 56 38     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

 57 39     mjhKhajiitSpeak.esp

 58 3a     FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

 59 3b     CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

 60 3c     SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

 61 3d     Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

 62 3e     Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

 63 3f     SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp

 64 40     SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

 65 41     Realistic Boat Bobbing.esp

 66 42     Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

 67 43     Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp

 68 44     Dead Body Collision.esp

 69 45     imp_helm_legend.esp

 70 46     Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

 71 47     Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

 72 48     Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul.esp

 73 49     Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Patch.esp

 74 4a     hearthfireextended.esp

 75 4b     TradeBarter.esp

 76 4c     DFB - Random Encounters.esp

 77 4d     Point The Way.esp

 78 4e     Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

 79 4f     Oblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp

 80 50     Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp

 81 51     SMIM-Merged-All.esp

 82 52     Run For Your Lives.esp

 83 53     Inigo.esp

 84 54     Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp

 85 55     SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp

 86 56     Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

 87 57     TimingIsEverything.esp

 88 58     ForgottenCity.esp

 89 59     EmbersHD.esp

 90 5a     PilgrimsDelight.esp

 91 5b     The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

 92 5c     FarmhouseChimneysCRF.esp

 93 5d     ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp

 94 5e     BlockSparkles.esp

 95 5f     mintylightningmod.esp

 96 60     dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

 97 61     WondersofWeather.esp

 98 62     Gildergreen Regrown.esp

 99 63     Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp

100 64     RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp

101 65     SeptimHD.esp

102 66     BWS.esp

103 67     LSFX-Audiosettings.esp

104 68     DragonShoutVoice.esp

105 69     IHSS.esp

106 6a     randomthunder.esp

107 6b     Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

108 6c     ADS.esp

109 6d     Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

110 6e     Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

111 6f     ClamsDropPearls.esp

112 70     Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp

113 71     Convenient Horses.esp

114 72     Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

115 73     ESFCompanions.esp

116 74     Lock Overhaul.esp

117 75     NonEssentialChildren.esp

118 76     NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp

119 77     NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp

120 78     SMDropLitTorch.esp

121 79     Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp

122 7a     Traps Make Noise.esp

123 7b     WetandCold.esp

124 7c     WM Trap Fixes.esp

125 7d     BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp

126 7e     BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp

127 7f     BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

128 80     Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

129 81     Moss Rocks - Legendary.esp

130 82     SFO - Dragonborn.esp

131 83     Insignificant Object Remover.esp

132 84     InigoMCM.esp

133 85     Bijin Warmaidens.esp

134 86     Serana.esp

135 87     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

136 88     towConversation.esp

137 89     mjhReducedGoldRewards.esp

138 8a     Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

139 8b     Chesko_Step418_SN.esp

140 8c     CWICRFPatch.esp

141 8d     CWISPOPatch.esp

142 8e     mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - Convenient Horses.esp

143 8f     mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

144 90     mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

145 91     Khajiit Speak Extended - Immersive College of Winterhold.esp

146 92     Khajiit Speak Extended - Inigo.esp

147 93     Khajiit Speak Extended - Typo Patch.esp

148 94     mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - Cutting Room Floor.esp

149 95     DeadlyDragons.esp

150 96     High Level Enemies - SIC.esp

151 97     Khajiit ears show.esp

152 98     LostLongSwords.esp

153 99     TKDodge.esp

154 9a     Mortal Enemies - SIC DLC2.esp

155 9b     Mortal Enemies - SIC.esp

156 9c     Mortal Enemies.esp

157 9d     NASB(After)-ICW.esp

158 9e     NASB(After)-Inigo.esp

159 9f     Masque_of_Khajiit.esp

160 a0     Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp

161 a1     BSHeartland - Meshes.esp

162 a2     BSHeartland - Textures.esp

163 a3     Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp

164 a4     SkyTweak.esp

165 a5     Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

166 a6     Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp

167 a7     Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

168 a8     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

169 a9     TheChoiceIsYours.esp

170 aa     Book Covers Skyrim.esp

171 ab     RealisticWaterTwo.esp

172 ac     RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

173 ad     Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp

174 ae     RBB - Realistic Water Two.esp

175 af     AOS.esp

176 b0     BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp

177 b1     mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - The Choice Is Yours.esp

178 b2     NASB(After)-BCS-BCSLL.esp

179 b3     STEP Combined PluginHF.esp

180 b4     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

181 b5     FarmhouseChimneysLAL.esp

182 b6     BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp

183 b7     mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - Alternate Start.esp

184 b8     ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp

185 b9     Scarcity - Less Loot Mod.esp

186 ba     Scarcity - 6x Merchant Item Rarity.esp

187 bb     Scarcity - 8x Loot Rarity.esp

188 bc     Bashed Patch, 0.esp

189 bd     DynDOLOD.esp
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I've never used Ordinator, but you might double check the load order for Thief Skills Rebalance for Ordinator.esp and Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp. It may be fine the way it is. It just stood out as a possibility if Thief Skills Reblanace overrides records in Ordinator.

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