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Dragon in DLC2MQ05 won't attack or aggro -- Now also affects Alduin in MQ206


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I'm having a weird problem with one of the scripted dragons on Solstheim. After coming out of Nchardak, the dragon that Miraak sends won't attack or start talking. He just lands on the dwemer ruin and stares at me. 
 
If I attack him, he takes off, flies in a circle, then lands again and resumes staring. I'm worried this might indicate some serious issues in the save game.
 
I'm positive this has to be some sort of a mod conflict, but for the life of me I can't identify what. I've looked in TES5Edit at the quest (DLC2MQ05) and the dragon (04017F87) and I cannot see anything over-writing any quest stages or behaviours (there's some mods affecting stats, but I'd be stunned if that was the cause).
 
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What stage of the quest are you in? That would be the first place to look and see if the quest has progressed properly. It's possible that something in the quest hung up or that you missed completing a part of it. Else, you can stop and restart the quest and then advance it to where you should be; all using console commands. That would be a last resort and save before doing so.

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I've tried doubling back and redoing both Nchardak and the Apocrypha instance, and each time I get a different stage (sometimes stage 360, sometimes 370, sometimes 390). UESP says all of those are empty stages. The next non-empty stage is 500 after talking to Storn.

 

To me it seems more like something is blocking the dragon from proceeding with its script. No idea what though. 

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Ok, here's a weird one. If I console in a new dragon, it's not hostile to me. It's hostile to everyone else, but not to me. Even if I shout at them or hit them with arrows. 

 

They used to be hostile to me: the one at Saering's Watch and a random dragon prior to Nchardak attacked me normally. But since coming back from Apocrypha it seems dragons don't consider me an enemy. 

 

Possibly something has set my faction relation to dragons?

 

Very very weird. 

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There are certain dragons you can ride. I've never finished Dragonborn so I've never made it to that point in the game.  ^_^

 

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I looked up the quest. Seems you're suppose to kill him. If he's not aggressive towards you, it could be a mod that is changing his behavior towards the player. It's also possible that a mod has added or changed factions around to create the issue of him not being aggressive as factions would be another place to look. In any case, you could just take him out and move on as that is how the quest is suppose to progress. 

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Thanks -- I ended up just killing that dragon. Unimmersive and cheesy to just shoot 75 arrows into a dragon that's just sitting there, but it did work. 

 

However, now I'm having the exact same issue with Alduin after returning from the time wound having learnt Dragonrend. Alduin will not aggro, and when I hit him with Dragonrend he just keeps flying around. I can confirm I am hitting him because he gets the blue glow effect, but it's not forcing him to land. Also, regardless of what I hit him with (Dragonrend or arrows) his health bar never shows up. 

 

So far, I have tried the following without success:

 

  • Reload from an earlier save
  • Remove mods that affect dragons 
  • Clean the save file using Fallrim tools
  • Fast travel between High Hrothgar and TotW
  • Use console on Alduin to resetai, disable, enable, force hostile
  • Sort load order using LOOT

 

My guess is something is interfering with the script to transition Alduin out of dialog mode into fight mode. I have no idea what, though, or how to identify it. I can't see anything in XEdit that would be causing this (although that's probably more because of limitations in my modding knowledge than anything else -- I don't know how to recognize what I need to fix). 

 

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We Dont Float.esp
CollegeEntry.esp
CYA_ChooseYourOwnArchMage.esp
ICNs_ImmersiveCollegeNPCs.esp
ICNs_Lite.esp
OCW_ICNs_OE_FEPatch.esp
DynamicDisplaySettings.esp
DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul.esp
Konahriks Privilege by Edhelsereg.esp
Unique Zephyr.esp
GamEngagementrings.esp
Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
MCWT_ACollegeCoup.esp
MCWT_ACollegeCoup_ICNs_OE.esp
MCWT_ExpiditeTheExpirate.esp
MCWT_UnflappableFaculty.esp
ThalmorInfluence1.esp
wuuthrad jorrvaskr display.esp
UIExtensions.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
BriDraugrOverhaul.esp
Draugr Overhaul WACCF Patch KDA.esp
KarstaagReborn.esp
Shout.esp
TaxesOfTheNineHolds.esp
Improved Traps.esp
Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Improved Traps Patch.esp
Ish's Respec Mod.esp
Smilodon - Combat of Skyrim.esp
Smilodon Mortal Enemies Patch KDA.esp
PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
mq206alduinsbane_fix.esp
bm_SimpleAction.esp
MCWT_GovernableGatekeeper.esp
Skyland Imperial Forts and Dungeons.esp
MCWT_ArnielsAppeals.esp
SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
SexLab Vanilla Voices.esp
MorePainfulNPCDeathSounds.esp
SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp
NudeYngvildSpirits.esp
BDS - MM Patch.esp
Realistic&Pale Merged.esp
Realistic Pale Hair - Grey.esp
WACCF_KonahriksAccoutrements.esp
OCW_KA_FEPatch.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
RaceScalingDisabled.esp
roadsidethief_simple_armor.esp
SparklesSE.esp
AOS Sparkles Patch.esp
NorthernBrawn.esp
Northern Brawn CRF Patch KDA.esp
Northern Brawn BQO Patch KDA.esp
KaliliesNPCs.esp
KaliliesNPCs - CRF Patch.esp
PAN_NPCs.esp
Qw_PANNPCs_CRF Patch.esp
Brothers.esp
Longer-Bleed-Out-Rate.esp
SkyTweak.esp
SimplyBalanced.esp
Bijin AIO.esp
Valerica.esp
PAN_Valerica.esp
Serana.esp
mjhReducedGoldRewards.esp
Higher Bounty Rewards Lite.esp
Higher Bounty Rewards BQO Patch KDA.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
moredragonloot.esp
imp_helm_USSEP.esp
Diverse Werewolves TiE Patch KDA.esp
Unique Draugr Patches KDA.esp
TKAA WACCF Patch KDA.esp
WACCF Hoods and Circlets.esp
Konahrik Accoutrements Imp Helm Patch KDA.esp
Enchanting Patches KDA.esp
WACCF Mage Texture Patch KDA.esp
DragonShoutVoice.esp
Shout Patch KDA.esp
Durnehviir God of Death.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
Serio's Enhanced Dragons Redone.esp
Serio Dragon Durn GoD Patch KDA.esp
Customizable Camera.esp
DurnehviirResurrected.esp
DurnehviirResurrected_GodOfDeath_patch.esp
SEDR Deadly Dragons Compatibility Patch.esp
ThoriksBloodOfColdharbor.esp
Coldharbour ISC Patch KDA.esp
Companions - Don't be a Milk Drinker (Farkas only option).esp
CobbEncumbrance.esp
ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
WACCF Explosive Bolts Patch KDA.esp
RealisticRoomRental-Basic.esp
JK's Belethor's General Goods.esp
JK's Warmaiden's.esp
JK's Arcadia's Cauldron.esp
JKs Arcadias Cauldron - USSEP Patch.esp
JKs The Drunken Huntsman.esp
JKs Drunken Huntsman - USSEP Patch.esp
JK's Dragonsreach.esp
JK's The Bannered Mare.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
PAN_NPCs_DG_MLU_Patch.esp
NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp
BCS Not Fast MQ Patch KDA.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
MM IC AIO Patch KDA.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
JKs Dragonsreach - Konahrik Accoutrements Patch.esp
JKs Dragonsreach - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp
Convenient Horses RDO Patch.esp
Misc Dialogue Edits.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp
JKs Bannered Mare - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp
JKs Belethors General Goods - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp
JKs Dragonsreach - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp
JKs Drunken Huntsman - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp
JKs Warmaidens - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp
Landscape For Grass Mods -Immersive Citizens PATCH.esp
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
Amorous Adventures USSEP Patch.esp
Understone IC AIO Patch KDA.esp
Convenient Horses Immersive Citizens Patch KDA.esp
Inconsequential NPCs RDO Patch KDA.esp
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
Serana Dialogue Edit.esp
SeranaDialogAddon.esp
Serana Improvements & Fixes.esp
SDA-AA Patch.esp
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
Moonlight Tales Female Patch.esp
RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
ELFX Lights Patch KDA.esp
AhzidalArmory.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
JKs Belethors General Goods - ELFX Patch.esp
JKs Dragonsreach - ELFX Patch.esp
JKs Arcadias Cauldron - ELFX Patch.esp
OCW_ELFX_FEPatch.esp
Extensive Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Immersive Sounds Patch.esp
Mysticism Patch KDA.esp
Adamant Patch KDA.esp
KDA_ISC_AOS_EBT_Patch.esp
AOS_ISC_Integration.esp
AOS - Catherdral Weathers Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - ASLAL Patch.esp
Realistic Water Two - Landscape For Grass Mods Patch.esp
Alchemy Fixed WACCF Patch KDA.esp
NoRadialBlur.esp
RND ELFX Patch KDA.esp
Castle Volkihar ELFX Patch KDA.esp
WACCF ACE ELFX Patch KDA.esp
PAN NPCs DG Patch KDA.esp
Qw_BijinAIO_CRF Patch.esp
PAN_WarriorWomen.esp
RDO ELFX Patch KDA.esp
Inconsequential NPCs CRF ELFX Patch KDA.esp
Potion Mixer SE.esp
Skyrim Save System Overhaul.esp
EnchantingAdjustments - WACCF Patch.esp
GloriousGlaciers.esp
MCWT_InescapableInsights_EBQO.esp
MCWT_DeadDunmerDelivery.esp
MCWT_EarlyElementalist_OCW.esp
MCWT_ACollegeCoup_OCW.esp
ELFXEnhancer - Winking Skeever Patch.esp
Missing Apprentices CRF Quest Fix.esp
Finding_Derkeethus.esp
Finding_Derkeethus_NM.esp
Finding Derkeethus BQO Patch KDA.esp
Finding Derkeethus ELFX Patch KDA.esp
Finding_VelehkSain.esp
Finding_VelehkSain_MAQF.esp
Finding Velehk ELFX Patch KDA.esp
Finding_Helgi_and_Laelette.esp
Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - ELFX.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - ELFX Enhancer Patch.esp
Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
nwsFollowerFramework.esp
NFF ELFX Patch KDA.esp
ELFX_FindingHaL_Patch.esp
WACCF and ACE - USSEP Arch-Mage Consistency Patch.esp
Unique Character.esp
Moonlight Tales Mortal Enemies Patch KDA.esp
FNIS.esp
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
Ulags Legacy.esp
Ulag's Legacy WICO Patch KDA.esp
NoblesseOblige.esp
Noblesse Oblige and Noble Dress - WACCF Patch.esp
NOFineClothesReplacer.esp
NOJarlClothesReplacer.esp
DiplomaticImmunity.esp
skyforgedWeapons.esp
Skyforged Weapons WACCF Patch KDA.esp
DeadlyDragonPriests.esp
Deadly Dragon Priests Cloak Patch KDA.esp
Deadly Dragon Priests Mortal Combat Patch KDA.esp
Better Dynamic Snow - Snowy Farmhouses.esp
BlendedRoads.esp
Fixes for Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
RWT Lod Fix.esp
Scarcity SE - 2x Merchant Item Rarity.esp
Scarcity SE - 6x Loot Rarity.esp
AllDBItems.esp
HagsEndLever.esp
HagravenSkinShaders.esp
AllDBItems Ancient Armor and Hints.esp
RaggedFlagonSign.esp
JK's Warmaiden's ELFX patch.esp
JK's The Bannered Mare ELFX patch.esp
All DB Items ELFX Patch.esp
RWT All DB Items Patch KDA.esp
ZIA_Ancient Pack.esp
ZIA_Daedric Pack.esp
ZMS.esp
ZNI.esp
OCW_WACCF_FEPatch.esp
Zim WACCF USSEP Patch KDA.esp
CL Nettlebane.esp
Dragon Priest Masks - KDA.esp
Loot Overrides - KDA.esp
Companions Quests Patch KDA.esp
CCOR Global Compatibility Patch.esp
WiZkiD Signs - BirnasOddments Addon.esp
OCW_CellSettings.esp
OCW_CRF_FEPatch.esp
OCW_HoD_FPSfix_Patch.esp
DeathExpressions.esp
NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp
MissingEZs_AllExteriors.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - MissingEZ All Exteriors Patch.esp
Radiant Prostitution Patch KDA.esp
Arena.esp
Encounter Zone Patches KDA.esp
NPC Master Patch KDA.esp
BA_RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp
BA_Sorting_BCS.esp
Draw!!.esp
Realistic-Voice.esp
WACCF Dawnguard Arsenal Patch.esp
Dawnguard Improved Arsenal WACCF Patch.esp
SunDaytimeSouth.esp
DynDOLOD.esp
npc_health_rescaled.esp
Dragon LODs RC1.esp
Plocktons Culling Glitch Fix.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
Paper World Map.esp
Paper World Map Lighting KDA.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - MissingEZ Vanilla Fixes Patch.esp

 

 

EDIT: I got a Papyrus Log of the game in action. Here is a snippet that I believe covers the last part of the cut scene where you learn Dragonrend followed by me attempting to engage Alduin in battle. I was able to get him with Dragonrend and put some arrows into him with him just hovering there, but he still won't attack. I also tried disabling / enabling.

 

[spoiler=Papyrus Log][06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Dumping stack 62387667:
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Frame count: 2 (Page count: 2)
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] State: Waiting on latent function (Freeze state: Freezing)
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Type: Normal
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Return register: False
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Has stack callback: No
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Stack trace:
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] .utility.WaitGameTime() - "" Line ?
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] IP: 0
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [param1]: 12.000000
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [ (0001B11B)].WIDeadBodyCleanupScript.OnDeath() - "WIDeadBodyCleanupScript.psc" Line 40
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] IP: 290 Instruction: 7 Line: 40
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [akKiller]: None
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [::NoneVar]: None
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [::temp0]: True
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [cleanedUp]: False
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [::temp1]: 12.000000
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [::temp2]: False
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Dumping stack 81076896:
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Frame count: 1 (Page count: 1)
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] State: Running (Freeze state: Frozen)
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Type: Normal
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Return register: None
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Has stack callback: No
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Stack trace:
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [sexLabQuestFramework (0C000D62)].sslSystemConfig.OnCrosshairRefChange() - "sslSystemConfig.psc" Line 464
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] IP: 0 Instruction: 0 Line: 464
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [ActorRef]: None
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [::temp61]: None
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Dumping stack 81076838:
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Frame count: 2 (Page count: 2)
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] State: Running (Freeze state: Frozen)
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Type: Normal
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Return register: False
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Has stack callback: No
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Stack trace:
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] .MfgConsoleFunc.SetModifier() - "MfgConsoleFunc.psc" Line 14
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] IP: 174 Instruction: 1 Line: 14
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [act]: [masterambushscript < (0002C9A0)>]
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [id]: 10
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [value]: 5
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [::temp1]: False
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [Active effect 5 on (0002C9A0)].DetExpressScript.OnUpdate() - "DetExpressScript.psc" Line 71
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] IP: 1932 Instruction: 15 Line: 71
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [::temp1]: -369525
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [::temp2]: True
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [::temp3]: False
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [::NoneVar]: None
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Dumping stack 81076841:
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Frame count: 2 (Page count: 2)
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] State: Running (Freeze state: Frozen)
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Type: Normal
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Return register: False
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Has stack callback: No
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] Stack trace:
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] .MfgConsoleFunc.SetModifier() - "MfgConsoleFunc.psc" Line 14
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] IP: 174 Instruction: 1 Line: 14
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [act]: [Actor < (0001AE9D)>]
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [id]: 10
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [value]: 44
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [::temp1]: False
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [Active effect 4 on (0001AE9D)].DetExpressScript.OnUpdate() - "DetExpressScript.psc" Line 71
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] IP: 1932 Instruction: 15 Line: 71
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [::temp1]: -193445
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [::temp2]: True
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [::temp3]: False
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] [::NoneVar]: None
[06/28/2020 - 12:56:40PM] VM is thawing...
[06/28/2020 - 12:57:28PM] Error: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
[None].nDragonExtraControllerScript.UnregisterForUpdate() - "" Line ?
[None].nDragonExtraControllerScript.OnUnload() - "nDragonExtraControllerScript.psc" Line 22
[06/28/2020 - 12:57:28PM] Error: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
[None].nDragonExtraControllerScript.UnregisterForUpdate() - "" Line ?
[None].nDragonExtraControllerScript.OnUnload() - "nDragonExtraControllerScript.psc" Line 22
[06/28/2020 - 12:57:28PM] Error: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
[None].nDragonExtraControllerScript.UnregisterForUpdate() - "" Line ?
[None].nDragonExtraControllerScript.OnUnload() - "nDragonExtraControllerScript.psc" Line 22
[06/28/2020 - 12:57:28PM] Error: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
[None].nDragonExtraControllerScript.UnregisterForUpdate() - "" Line ?
[None].nDragonExtraControllerScript.OnUnload() - "nDragonExtraControllerScript.psc" Line 22
[06/28/2020 - 01:02:11PM] VM is freezing...
[06/28/2020 - 01:02:11PM] VM is frozen
[06/28/2020 - 01:02:11PM] Saving game...
[06/28/2020 - 01:02:12PM] VM is thawing...
[06/28/2020 - 01:02:14PM] Error: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
[None].nDragonExtraControllerScript.UnregisterForUpdate() - "" Line ?
[None].nDragonExtraControllerScript.OnUnload() - "nDragonExtraControllerScript.psc" Line 22
[06/28/2020 - 01:02:14PM] Error: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
[None].nDragonAoEControllerScript.UnregisterForUpdate() - "" Line ?
[None].nDragonAoEControllerScript.OnUnload() - "nDragonAoEControllerScript.psc" Line 22
[06/28/2020 - 01:02:15PM] VM is freezing...
[06/28/2020 - 01:02:15PM] VM is frozen
[06/28/2020 - 01:02:15PM] Saving game...
[06/28/2020 - 01:02:17PM] VM is thawing...
[06/28/2020 - 01:02:46PM] VM is freezing...
[06/28/2020 - 01:02:46PM] VM is frozen
[06/28/2020 - 01:02:47PM] Log closed

 

 

Once again, any and all help appreciated. 

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I still have not had any success in solving this issue. 

 

  • I went through all of the Packages, NPC records, and Quest Aliases in Xedit. This didn't turn up anything, as pretty much all of them were unchanged from vanilla.
  • While doing the above, I found that The Paarthurnax Dilemma and Bugfix Compilation made some edits to (surprise surprise) Paarthurnax and Alduin, so I tried removing them.
 

At this point I am completely mystified and can't think of anything else to try. What's especially baffling is Google doesn't come up with anyone else having had this problem. Somehow I'm the only person in the world who is getting this. 

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