ACCEPTED Timing is Everything (by kryptopyr)

[cdcooley]

There are a few conflicts with the unofficial patches. Affected quests are WIAddItem03, WICastMagic01, WICastMagic04 and WEJS14. Can these conflicts be ignored or should the edits from the unofficial patches be forwarded? I usually do that myself but since quest records are quite complex I'm not sure.

You can ignore the conflicts without any major issues.

 

WICastMagic01 is fine. TIE makes the same basic tests as the USKP but in a different way.

 

WICastMagic04 is missing one new test from UDBP but the TIE version has others that are even more important (and more likely to be triggered).

 

WIAddItem03 is more of a problem. The USKP has added conditions on the Owner alias that should probably be merged into TIE, but TIE has important conditions on the quest itself.

 

WEJS14 is another one where the two sets of changes really should be merged, but I don't think the bug being fixed by the USKP was a critical one.

 

 

Maybe kryptopyr will make an update of TIE after the next round of unofficial patches get out of beta but the conflicts are small enough I haven't bothered updating my personal patch.

[EssArrBee]

There's another update coming already? Dammit. 

[Octopuss]

There's another update coming already? Dammit. 

Pretty huge one, and I'm not even exaggerating. I have no idea where they pulled so many changes from in such short period of time.

[kryptopyr]

You can ignore the conflicts without any major issues.

 

WICastMagic01 is fine. TIE makes the same basic tests as the USKP but in a different way.

 

WICastMagic04 is missing one new test from UDBP but the TIE version has others that are even more important (and more likely to be triggered).

 

WIAddItem03 is more of a problem. The USKP has added conditions on the Owner alias that should probably be merged into TIE, but TIE has important conditions on the quest itself.

 

WEJS14 is another one where the two sets of changes really should be merged, but I don't think the bug being fixed by the USKP was a critical one.

 

 

Maybe kryptopyr will make an update of TIE after the next round of unofficial patches get out of beta but the conflicts are small enough I haven't bothered updating my personal patch.

Thanks for the run-down on these.  I'll try to get an update made soon after the next unofficial patches are released.

[kranazoli]

Hey,

 

I've been reading this topic and Not so Fast. Looked both mods page as well. I can't decide, can I use this two mods together? Or no, I must choose one of them? Or does not sense to use them together? Buggy, etc, ...

 

I saw Legendary edition uses Timing is Everything.

 

Is is recommended to use them together? Or should I choose between these two mods?

 

Thanks!

[cdcooley]

Use them together. I do.

[brokenpaine]

I use Not so Fast Main Quest, Not so Fast(cant rem the other) Timing is everything, The choice is Yours, Dark brotherhood Req, Theives Req, Even better Quest Objectives.

And as far as I know they ALL work together great. I havent had any issues with ANY quests while using them.

[kranazoli]

I use Not so Fast Main Quest, Not so Fast(cant rem the other) Timing is everything, The choice is Yours, Dark brotherhood Req, Theives Req, Even better Quest Objectives.

And as far as I know they ALL work together great. I havent had any issues with ANY quests while using them.

I guess, maybe Not So Fast Mage Guild?

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/64633/?

[Saviorsrd]

Used this for my last playthrough - worked completely flawlessly.  

[TechAngel85]

With EssArrBee's vote for this in the Not So Fast - Main Quest thread and now my approval. That's two Staff's approval.

 

Accepted for STEP:Extended v2.2.9.2. Default MCM settings until otherwise noted.

[EssArrBee]

@Kryp, does this mod need to be updated for USLP? A few Quest records look like they may need some fixes forwarded. Maybe just WICastMagic04 "Shout - learn about word wall" [QUST:00023EE4] but I'm not really an expert on quests.

[kryptopyr]

No, I think the conflicts are okay.  If I remember right, the USKP actually copied some of the changes from Timing is Everything several versions ago, but the placement of the conditions is slightly different so it shows up as a conflict. 

[EssArrBee]

Okay, Thanks.

[Greg]

Thinking out loud...

[phazer11]

Thinking out loud...

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