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Update - 1 JUL: This may be the last update regarding SkyRe, the reproccer and merging it with SRLE. I've learned a ton, even made my own patches which was decidely fun.

 

Here's the Bottom Line:

SkyRe is an ambitious and amazingly good mod. However, in its current (final) state 1.3.01 it is just not compatible. It will run, and run pretty darn well for the most part with SRLE thanks to the many patches by Xathra, Gruffy, Raulfin, and many other mod authors. The crafting issues are just too large for me to continue working on it. To really make things compatible, consistent, predictable and sensible, it will take someone with the knowledge and skills to modify the Reproccer. With SkyRe v2 (Perkus Maximus) in development it does not make sense to continue pursuing fixes for 1.3.01. The reproccer does not handle the many recipes in SRLE and SkyRe properly. Resulting in multiple issues such as duplicate recipes, missing perks/mod features, menu issues, etc.. to provide consistent enough gameplay that I've grown accustomed to via Kryptopyr's superb mods. For crafting geeks like myself, its 90% of the enjoyment. 

 

I plan to continue work on my crafting patch for standalone SRLE. Its a much easier task for my current skillset. I'll keep a link here for the standalone patch for those that want to use it.

 

Also, I'll leave these notes up for reference for anyone else that wants to see what they can do with SkyRe and SRLE.

 

A huge thanks to everyone who has contributed help, via patches, guidance, questions along the way. Gimpyone, Thaismule, DanielCoffey, Garfink, Fireundubh (those scripts are a godsend!)..

 

27 JUNE 2014 crafting patch:

 

 

SRLE build updated to Neo's guide as of 27 JUN. I have not yet tested any of the SkyRe patches listed below. However, I have finished and tested the Crafting Patch on SRLE and feel confident enough to share it. I still consider it a beta. There are features I want to add that will take more time. You can find it uploaded in my github..."SR Crafting Patch v##.esp".

 

I highly recommend adding Kryptopyr's Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade and Updated to a SRLE build (without SkyRe installed). It enhances the crafting menus from Kryptopyr's other mods included in SRLE (WAF, CCF, CCOR) and reworks the smithing skill tree to one that makes sense..(SPO Remade has a few different versions of the skill tree that you can choose from. I prefer the New Skill Tree #2). Perk requirements and faction quest requirements should still work with the new recipes...SPO Remade and Updated is NOT required for this patch.

 

You must have these mods installed for the patch to work. It sorts properly with LOOT. If using BOSS, it goes AFTER these masters:

 

Masters for SRLE Crafting Patch_v09.esp: 
00  Skyrim.esm01  Update.esm02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.4a]03  Dawnguard.esm04  HearthFires.esm05  Dragonborn.esm06  Falskaar.esm07  Wyrmstooth.esp  [Version 1.11]08  Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp09  Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp0A  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.5.2]0B  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp0C  SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp0D  OBIS.esp0E  OBISDB.esp0F  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.5.2]10  WetandCold.esp11  WetandCold - Ashes.esp12  WetandCold - Holidays.esp13  aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp14  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp15  Cloaks.esp16  Chesko_Frostfall.esp17  1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp  [Version 2.3]
 
The masters list above is based on a LOOT load order. If using BOSS, create a BUM rule to load SRLE Crafting Patch_v##.esp AFTER aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp. Also you may want to sort masters on SRLE Crafting Patch_v##.esp in TES5 to match your BOSS load order.
 
NOTE: If any of these mods in the required master list (above) get updated/merged, the SR Crafting Patch may need updated IF EDID's change or it introduces new items not covered by the patch. When SIC v7 is released,...it will likely need updated.
 
2nd NOTE: You can change some features of this patch in TES5Edit. However, altering fields that require item EDID's/FORM ID's without esm-ify-ing the masters and loading it in the CK to edit it may break it. (Not a big deal really, just reinstall a fresh copy from github).

 

Why did I make this patch?:

The current reproccer is spotty with creating meltdown recipes. Many items that do not have breakdown recipes in SRLE, will continue to have them missing after using the reproccer. Thus I made the patch for SRLE standalone. I have not tested the reproccer with this patch installed and therefore cannot guarantee the result. (I will be testing soon with SkyRe installed).

 

What does it do?:

  • Adds many breakdown recipes for items (Armor and Weapons) that did not have one (roughly 900 items..if counting alternate recipes 1,100)
  • Extends CCO learning to items that did not have it
  • Cleans up a few items in the Smelter menu and Tanning Rack menu.
  • Moves all leather and cloth deconstruction off the Skyrim Tanning rack to Frostfall's virtual/survival tanning rack. To Access it, make sure you set hotkeys in the MCM menu for Frostfall.
  • Adjusts a handful of creation recipes to be consistent with the new breakdown recipes (to maintain a 'loss of material' aspect when deconstructing an item)
  • Adds some alternative breakdown recipes for items such as jewelry, and 'Winter Is Coming' hooded helms, to give a choice on which components to recover...i.e. ingot or gems, hood or helmet...
  • Modifies condition checks on 1-Handed weapons so that duel weilding characters will not Smelt their "equipped" weapons. (Only for items that needed a breakdown recipe. I have not checked items with already existing/working breakdown recipes yet.)
  • Slightly alters a few item creation recipes to allow for recovery of dragonbone and dragonscale items.

What it does not do?

  • Does not extend CCO functionality such as "equipped" condition checks to items from mods missing them. (<-Something I would like to check & add in the future.) ONLY the items I added BreakDown recipes for have this feature. Items from Kryptopyr's mods will already have it with the exception of the "duel-weilding" part.
  • Does not allow the breakdown of Daedric items based on lore.

Things to do list:

  • Check existing breakdown recipes to add any missing CCOR features/functionality.
  • Add/modify "equipped" checks for ALL 1-Handed weapons to be more duel-weild friendly.
  • ADD SkyRe back to my build and Update these notes. (will do some of this over the weekend)

 

 

 

 â€“Please note this is not a guide. It is my collection of ramblings and notes as I attempt to get SkyRe integrated into my modified SRLE build. I am a Novice with modding and do not gaurantee results with these notes and shared files. Feel free to make comments/recommendations, especially if you see something I missed or see a better way of doing it. It is a work in Progress....

 

I have switched from BOSS to LOOT. LOOT can be found here. There are a few minor changes when working with LOOT. BUM is no longer necessary as rules can be added directly to your load order via "Edit Metadata". The changes I made are noted in the PREPARATION section #9. IMPORTANT: Neo's guide is based on BOSS. LOOT does alter the load order and may introduce errors that are not covered by Neo's SR Conflict Resolution file.

 

RECAP:

 

 

1. To integrate SkyRe with SRLE we need T3nd0’s ReProccer.

 The ReProccer balances stats, perks, and other things that I don’t fully comprehend but is designed to make mods like Armor/Weapon mods more compatible with SkyRe. It’s not a 100% fix as not all mods are created equal and have not been designed with SkyRe or the ReProccer in mind. This collection of notes focuses primarily on making the SRLE Armory mods + crafting changes work with SkyRe. Gimpyone has been steadily at work making compatability patches for mods such as BYOD and OBIS for his build and sharing them. Please note he is working with a slightly different setup than I am. He is building from S.T.E.P extended + SRLE + SkyRe. I am building from SRLE + SkyRe.

 

>>> What it can do:

 

- Categorize weapon types, based on names (a "Katana" in mod XY will be recognized by SkyRe after running the patcher)
- Categorize weapon types, based on an "override" list (force weapons into categories, in case the name check fails)
- Adjust weapon stats to SkyRe levels - or to anything one wishes, due to configuration. Based on material and type.
- Rename any vanilla-like sword to "Broadsword"
- Assign any bow to either the "shortbow" or "longbow" category, depending on material or name, and rename it accordingly
- Create SkyRe crossbow variants off of any mod-added crossbow. So, if a mod adds a Dragonbone Crossbow, the ReProccer can create Recurve, Silenced.... versions that work with the perks. This includes crafting, tempering and meltdown recipes.
- Create "Refined Silver" variants of any silver weapon. This includes crafting, tempering and meltdown recipes.
- Adjust gravity influence, speed and damage of ammunition and projectiles, based on type and material
- Create ammo variants used in SkyRe (explosive, timebomb, lightsource...) off of any ammo
- Adjust armor stats to SkyRe levels. Again, slot multipliers and material influence are fully modifyable
- Assign shields to the categories "light" and "heavy", depending on material, and rename them accordingly
- Set new cap for maximum armor protection
- Set new value for "protection gained per armor"
- Let mod-added armor work with "Masquerade"
- Force vanilla armor material keywords upon mod-added armor
- Add crafting requirements to any leather material armor
- Add meltdown recipes to any armor/weapon
- Add material perk requirements to any tempering recipe
- Make all ingredient effects work over time, based on effect name. Highly customizable.
- Optionally force minimum/maximum values on the patched ingredients, to prevent ingredients from becoming worthless or too expensive

 

 

 

 

2. I am testing and tweaking with a modified SRLE build. SRLE is also a work in progress as Neo tests and makes changes. My lists below may/may not contain mods from the most recent SRLE guide. These changes are for my preferences and tastes. All other mods as of 27 JUN guide are installed so this list is not inclusive of changes thereafter.

           

      Not installed in my current build:

  • Face to Face Conversation
  • UNP Blessed Body Redux Project

 

  What I have added to my build:

 

     Ready made patches for SkyRe

  • Bring Out Your Dead - Skyre.esp
  • Falskaar Skyre Alternate Start Patch.esp
  • ICH Skyre Compatibility Patch.esp
  • OBIS Skyre Enemy Scaling Patch.esp
  • Post ReProccer fixes OBIS Patch.esp
  • *The "Skyre Consistent Older People.esp" is a file gimpyone is using for his S.T.E.P. extended + SRLE + Skyre version. For my build, I am not using this file.*

 

3. The Unofficial Skyrim Redone Patch is obsolete and no longer necessary when installing Unofficial Skyrim Redone Patch Update v2.1 from Xathra's nexus page. Also, my custom stats.xml on the github page has not been updated for v2.3.1. If you are using the standard Xathra stats.xml, this will not be an issue. If using my tweaked xxSSTHxx version, I do not know what effect it will have on your build because I have not examined the weapon entries to carry over any fixes.

 

Several modders have been making patches for the ReProccer and SkyRe some old, some new. Qotsafans and Balbor & Soulsteels files are not recommended as many of the changes in them are included in Xathra's WAFR IA7 series of patches. To keep things simple here are the needed patches:

 

· Skyrim Redone - Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade Patch by Gruffys [is getting long in the tooth but referenced as a master by Xathra's patches-- i.e..has not been updated for the new version(s) of CCOR. Raulfin may be including/updating this after the next round of Xathra updates v 2.4 are released]

*CCOR SkyRe Patch

 

Xathra has not updated his patches for IA7.1 - this is patched by the Pre and Post ReProccer Patch Update in the UPDATES section. The only files to be replaced are the Pre*.esp, Post*.esp, and stats.xml.

 

2nd Note: Additionally, the v2.3 patches have not been updated for WAF 5.0, Unofficial <*> Patches 2.0.4*, IA 7.1, CCOR 1.5...... v2.4 should cover most of these recent updates when it is completed.

 

· SkyRe Compatibility and ReProccer Patches by Xathra:

*Main file version 2.3 [FOMOD]  -> for the Falskaar SkyRe Faction Patch.esp and Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

 

   Optional file downloads needed:

*Clothing and Clutter Fixes - (this has a file-> CCF PreReProccer Patch.esp that needs to be installed)

 

   Updates file downloads needed for IA7.1:

*Pre and Post ReProccer Patch Update v2.3 [FOMOD]

   --install the:

                     a) "with aMidianSS Content Addon" in the "For IA7.1 with CCOR section"

                     b) "Custom Stats replacer" *NOTE: I have replaced this file with xxSSTHxx's v0.9 stats.xml and added the OBIS armor_materials for my build. If you use Xathra's v2.3 I highly recommend using the armor spreadsheet (see comment #3) and creating your own SRLE Post ReProccer Armor fix patch.

 

Updates file downloads needed:

*Unofficial Skyrim Redone Patch Update

 

 
Add these to the stats.xml in the armor material section or download my stats.xml from github:
 *Use this format-
<armor_material>
<iArmor>xx</iArmor>
<sMaterialName>zzzzzz zzzz</sMaterialName>
</armor_material>
 
For OBIS:
Blueskull 14
Bandit Blindeye 18
Heavy Bandit Blindeye 22
Bandit Blue Skull 18
Heavy Bandit Blue Skull 22
Bandit Butcher 18
Heavy Bandit Butcher 22
Bandit Digger 18
Heavy Bandit Digger 22
Bandit Dusk Dealer 18
Heavy Bandit Dusk Dealer 22
Bandit Iron Blood 18
Heavy Bandit Iron Blood 22
Bandit Lightning Wolf 18
Heavy Bandit Lightning Wolf 22
Bandit Unloyal 18
Heavy Bandit Unloyal 22
Bandit Vermin 18
Heavy Bandit Vermin 22
Bandit Women 18
Heavy Bandit Women 22
 
My own tweaks:
 
 *add-
Ancient Nord 20
 
 *change-
Daedric Lord 55
Heavy Daedric 53
Dragon Knight Heavy 52
Dragonbone Ebonsteel 52
Daedric 51
Dragon Knight Light 50
Dragonhide Heavy 50
Heavy Dragonplate 50
Light Daedric 49
Heavy Daedric Buckler 49
Dragonscale Ebonsteel 47
Heavy Dragonscale 47
Light Dragonplate 46
Dragonhide Light 46
Dragonscale 45
Light Daedric Buckler 45
Heavy Dragonplate Buckler 44
Light Dragonscale 43
Light Dragonplate Buckler 42
Light Dragonscale Buckler 39
 
 *to fix an error change these-
Fortified Light Shield of Solitude 39
Fortified Shield of Solitude 38
Superior Light Shield of Solitude 37
Superior Shield of Solitude 36

 

RECOMMENDATIONS WHEN WORKING WITH THE REPROCCER

 

 

While experimenting with all of this..I found a few things that made my task a little easier when testing changes with the reproccer.jar via SUM (installed through MO)

1. After creating your SR Conflict Resolution.esp:  Create a new mod <Conflict Resolution> and cut/paste your SR Conflict Resolution.esp from the overwrite folder. (Keep in mind that if you make any major changes to your build that remove mods from Neo's guide you may have to rebuild your conflict resolution.esp)

2. Leave everything else in the overwrite folder until you are satisfied with your reproccing changes. If for some reason you need to re-run SUM, I would delete everything inside the MO overwrite folder and begin with step #3 (Run FNIS) in the FINISHING INSTALLATION AND EXECUTING SUM section below.

 

 

PREPARATION:

 

 

1. Deactive or uninstall CCO’s Frostfall patch

 

2. Install Skyrim Redone and ready made patches for (BCS, SIC, AOS)

Note: I installed Skyrim Redone just before Book Covers Skyrim (install priority 75 / left hand pane in MO) because it is the first mod that requires a patch for SkyRe. In order for the mineorescript.psc from CCOR to function properly, Skyrim Redone should have a lower priority number than Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade (CCOR). I currently have Skyrim Redone at priority 75 and CCOR at 255. This allows proper functioning of the mining speed & quantity menu in the MCM for CCO. NOTE: When v2.4 of Xathra's patches are released, custom scripts will be included to merge compatibility of SkyRe, CCOR, and USKP and should alleviate this problem.

 

3. Install Gruffy’s CCO Remade patch:

a. Main file – CCOR_SkyRe_Patch.esp

b. Optionals –

i. CCOR_aMidianBorn_Patch.esp

ii. CCOR_Frostfall_Patch.esp

iii. CCOR_IA7_Patch.esp

iv. CCOR_SkyRe_Races_Patch.esp

 

4. Install Xathra’s ReProccer Patches SkyRe v2.3 [FOMOD install]

a. Falskaar SkyRe Faction Patch.esp

b. Clothing and Clutter Fixes.esp

c. after installation remove the following folders if you see them:

   *..SkyProc Patchers

   *..SkyRe ReProccer Comp Readmes

 

5. Install Xathra's Pre and Post ReProccer Patch Update v2.3.1 [FOMOD install]

                   a. with aMidianSS Content Addon - For IA7.1 with CCOR

                   b. Custom Stats replacer (if you want the custom stats xml)

 

6. Install Xathra’s Clothing and Clutter Fix for CCF 1.3. (This is the file from the Optional section.)

 

7. Install Xathra's Unofficial Skyrim Redone Patch Update v2.1. (This is the file from the Updates section.)

 

8. Install Gimpyone's patches.

 

9. Launch LOOT from MO and "Edit Metadata" to create rules:

 

This section is in a high state of flux as I learn how to use LOOT. Check back regularly for corrections as I discover issues.

 

Note: After loading my newly updated SR Conflict Resolution.esp in TES5 edit, I realized it was not necessary to load it after the Pre ReProccer WAFR IA7 aMidianSS Content Addon Patch.esp. Neo's BUM rule (for BOSS) user's ...SR Conflict Resolution.esp TOP Bashed Patch...is fine. For LOOT users: no metadata edit is necessary...in my build it sorts at priority 152 which is just after Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

a. RelightingSkyrim.esp  [Priority -1990000]
b. SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp (load AFTER SkyFalls + SkyMills Total edition.esp)
c. SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp (load AFTER SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp)
d. OBIS Skyre Enemy Scaling Patch.esp (load AFTER SkyRe_EnemyScaling_Fix.esp)
e. AHZmoreHUD.esp (load AFTER iHUD.esp)
f. ICH Skyre Compatibility Patch.esp [Priority 1995000]

g. All Post ReProccer files or Gimpyone's files from github should be checked/verified they load AFTER whatever mods they affect....Post ReProccer stuff AFTER ReProccer.esp, BYOD-Skyre Patch AFTER BYOD.esp, etc.. LOOT does a pretty decent job of placing these but not always.

 

10. Install T3nd0’s Reproccer

a. After installation delete the following files/folders

i. ReProccer folder

ii. SkyProcDebug folder

iii. ReProccer_*.txt

 

 

Create your Blocklist

 

 

NOTE: Because of the virtual file system in MO, I recommend disabling all post reproccer.esp files (everything below reproccer.esp - as sorted by BOSS & BUM rules) before running SUM. The blocklist is supposed to do this however, I am uncertain that when executing SUM in MO that the T3nd0's Reproccer.jar is reading the correct blocklist.txt

 

11. In Mod Organizer, select T3nd0’s Reproccer mod folder and open in explorer

a. Navigate to SkyProc Patchers>T3nd0_ReProccer>Files>blocklist.txt

b. Edit blocklist.txt - add the following files on its own separate line

i. BCS - SkyRe Patch EN.esp

ii. BCS - CCOR Patch.esp

iii. Post ReProccer Fixes CCOR IA7 aMidianSS Content Addon Patch.esp

iv. ICH Skyre Compatibility Patch.esp

v. Post ReProccer Fixes OBIS Patch.esp

c. Save blocklist.txt and exit explorer

<EXAMPLE Blocklist.txt link>

 

 

FINISHING INSTALLATION AND EXECUTING SUM

 

 

1. Run LOOT from MO <EXAMPLE LOOT loadorder link>

2. Build SR conflict resolution.esp - if necessary as per Neovalen’s guide – skip any fixes for mods not installed/applicable to your build ->read them carefully to ensure they don't apply before skipping-

3. Run FNIS from MO

4. Disable/Deactivate all post reproccer esp(s)

5. Run Wrye Bash: Build initial Bashed Patch (I did not merge anything here)

6. Run LOOT from MO

7. Run SUM - uncheck the "Run BOSS" box under patcher options if you are using LOOT. (I do not create a merged skyproc file so the output.esp(s) can be manually sorted if necessary with Metadata rules)

8. Activate ReProccer.esp

9. Run TES5Edit: sort masters on ReProccer.esp

10. Activate all post reproccer esp(s)

11. Run LOOT from MO

12. Verify all post reproccer esp(s) are sorted AFTER ReProccer.esp

13. Run Wrye Bash: Rebuild your Bashed Patch (merge whatever you want here)

13a. (Only for working with the CK not required for a play through installation) - Redate plugins via LOOT

14. Launch game / test changes

 

 

 

My goals:

Near term goals (working with the reproccer and fixing item stats):

  • identify armors & weapons that need post-reproccing tweaking for: armor rating, damage rating, weight and/or material. (<-needs updated - 27 Jun)
  • fix items that don't melt-down/deconstruct properly (<- beta patch available - 27 Jun)
  • balance items to be consistent from all the various mods such as backpacks (weight and carry capacity, guard helmets, cloaks, etc...basically anything that doesn't match up)

Long term goals (for fixing errors introduced by adding SkyRe and its mechanics..most likely another thread down the road)

  • identify errors that arise from adding Skyre to SRLE such as - starting skill levels, skill level requirements & progression, verify perks working properly
  • deconflict SRLE mods that SkyRe overlaps (OBIS, BYOD, ??) distribution lists - ASIS may fix some of this possibly
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Thai,

 

I looked more in TES5 and compared the notes for the "Dragonborn Armor Fix" - (Balbor's & Steelsouls) to what I see in my current build. Going down his list of notes for this patch:

  • Added Tempering Recipes for Skaal Armor - already works without this patch
  • Added Crafting Recipes for Skaal Armor - already works without this patch
  • Added the word 'Falx' to the Non-Player Imperial Armor Set - already has this word added in Dragonborn.esm (items: 0701A573, 0701A574, 0701A575, 0701A576)
  • Changed the Keyword for General Carius' Armor to those of heavy armour - (aleady in Dragonborn.esm > BOD2 > Armor Type > Heavy Armor) & (W&A Fixes Remade.esp > KWDA - Keywords > Keyword > ArmorHeavy [KYWD:0006BBD2] )
  • Added Vanilla ArmorMaterial Keywords to Nordic and Stalhrim (light and heavy versions) - I don't see a light Version of these Armors. The Heavy Versions appear to have good armor material keywords already assigned

Making a guess here (don't quote me)...regarding Balbor & Steelsouls SkyRe Crafting Fix Patch... CCOR and WAFR most likely fix these errors. You can always load it up in your build and compare it in TES5.

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Regarding Qotsafan's patches:

 

I downloaded and examined the contents of his most recent package (v 3.7.4). If you ignore the Reproccer fixes as per Xathra's notes and do not install his stats.xml files, I only see a few that might apply (would need to be tested of course). Without knowing exactly what they are meant to fix and/or examining them in TES5 I would be cautious using them. In fact I would probably disregard all of Qotsafan's patches for my purposes...focusing on the stuff that needs patches for T3nd0's ReProccer.jar only. In this regard, Xathra's patches already contain Balbors and Qotsafans fixes.

 

Frostfall

SkyRe Destruction Tree Tweak Patch *

SkyRe Destruction Tree Tweak Patch Atronach *

Leveled List Patch (I don't know jack about leveled lists currently - so I'm not much help here)

Leveled Lists + Jaysus Swords Patch

Bring Out Your Dead Patch

Skyforge Shields

 

Whatever else you think is needed for your build.

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Will be putting the shared spreadsheet for Armor data back up this weekend. Its now in a better format with functioning drop downs and comparison formulas. There are a few features I still want to add and I've completed data entry for approx 50% of the 1500+ armors from SRLE.

 

(Sorry was a busy week at work...)

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Wow...weird...

So I've been looking into how to fix some of these meltdown recipes but I ran into a snag along the way...the Creation Kit. Right, so I installed it and made the few changes in skyrimeditor.ini and true to form... the CK fails..and fails...and...

New install, verify integrity, compatibility check, reboot, log in/out of steam, endless list of things to try but nada..nothing, kaput! Then I see a youtube video that says remove the d3d9.dll from the Skyrim folder. (Well, I need this file for my ENB so I simply moved it to a 'temp' folder and presto!..CK kit working! Glad I spent the last 3 to 4 hours Effin with it but hey at least its working now.)

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The CK is a pain. Wish you luck.

 

So, I have started poking around STEP Extended 2.2.8 and building SR:LE off that. I think my plan is to:

  • Resolve Conflicts with Skyre and Consistent Older People
  • Same with Bring Out Your Dead
  • Maybe OBIS.

 

I am learning a lot about TES5edit as I go, but I am very new to this, so I'm only going to post my patches here for now. 

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Wow...weird...

So I've been looking into how to fix some of these meltdown recipes but I ran into a snag along the way...the Creation Kit. Right, so I installed it and made the few changes in skyrimeditor.ini and true to form... the CK fails..and fails...and...

New install, verify integrity, compatibility check, reboot, log in/out of steam, endless list of things to try but nada..nothing, kaput! Then I see a youtube video that says remove the d3d9.dll from the Skyrim folder. (Well, I need this file for my ENB so I simply moved it to a 'temp' folder and presto!..CK kit working! Glad I spent the last 3 to 4 hours Effin with it but hey at least its working now.)

Wow, odd, Normally there is a line in the enblocal.ini under [FIX] which is : Ignorecreationkit=true or something like that making the d3d9.dll invisible to the ck. Will be less painful than moving the file over and over. 

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Thanks Monobloc for the tip. I checked my enblocal.ini and does include the Ignorecreationkit=true statement... but I haven't updated to NLA v1.4 or the latest ENB (still using 1.3 and v250...all these updates coming so fast I can't keep up with them..lol. It has to drive Neovalen crazy keeping his guide updated.)

 

About the meltdown recipes:

 

I'm like Gimpyone, just learning how to do all this stuff. Thaismule pointed me in the direction I think I need to go but I'm going to have to make my own patch to fix the broken meltdown items. Thai found a SIC post reproccer fix on the Nexus. I looked at this patch in TES5. The author was having a similar issue but for him, the reproccer.jar is pulling info from SIC and creating recipes for those items instead of the usual vanilla stuff. In my case, its missing most of the SIC items once it creates recipes for the vanilla.

 

Will try creating some recipes tonight in the CK but I'm not sure how its going to turn out. The reason being (for example) there are multiple Iron Armor (cuirass') from vanilla, SIC, other installed mods that have different FORM ID's. I don't know if its possible to create a recipe by FORM ID rather than NAME..and if its by NAME, why the similarly named items won't meltdown. Not sure if this is even correct. Until I get my hands dirty and start experimenting with recipes, this may just be me chasing a red herring.

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Ahhh...heh, heh, heh,

 

CK is launching (from MO) but doesn't see any plugins / mods. Its only showing core files from the steam directory.

 

Gah, guess I may be stuck making a backup of the Steam directory and installing everything manually so the CK can see it..:(

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Okay, hot off the TES5edit presses, is my BYOD Skyre Compatibility patch: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0948JLsnEjgMVdkcTJpUFpVWUE/edit?usp=sharing

It needs to go AFTER CCOR_Skyre_Races_Patch.esp. Provided as is and I reserve the right to tweak it without notice.

 

 

As far as I can tell, there are no conflicts between OBIS and Skyre. The mod authors state:

 

 

FINALLY, OBIS is compatible with Skyre as I built OBIS using Skyre as a model. Also as long as you use Reproccer properly it will work in perfect harmony.

I didn't see any conflicts where OBIS didn't win out over Skyre.

 

Messaged ipmlj a copy of this:

Just wanted to let you know that I saw a faction conflict that is included in SR Conflict Resolution, namely:0001BCC0 BanditFactionSkyre conflicts with the above and another:000E0CD9 BanditAllyFactionMy limited knowledge would suggest to copy these both over to SR Conflict Resolution, and that's what I plan to do with my build. Let me know if you would like me to do something else.

 

In the meantime I noticed this as well:

0003E691 WolfFaction 

Alternate start and SR Conflict Resolution conflicts with Falskaar Skyre Faction Patch. I'm going to just copy them into Falskaar, but I feel weird about modifying someone else's work and distributing it, so feel free to make the change yourself.

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Ahhh...heh, heh, heh,

 

CK is launching (from MO) but doesn't see any plugins / mods. Its only showing core files from the steam directory.

 

Gah, guess I may be stuck making a backup of the Steam directory and installing everything manually so the CK can see it..:(

 

Yeah, I haven't figured out how to get the CK to work with MO. Maybe a more experienced member could give us advice.

You have to tick "overwrite steam appid" and add 202480 next to it on the executables, works fine for me. 

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I think I borked something somewhere when removing and reinstalling the CK. I was also playing with permissions and compatibility settings when trouble shooting the start up issue so I may need to backtrack and make sure they are set to default. I do have the overwrite steam appid in the MO modify executables for the CK. I haven't found much of anything posted on the net describing my issue so I suspect its on my end.

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Okay, hot off the TES5edit presses, is my BYOD Skyre Compatibility patch: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0948JLsnEjgMVdkcTJpUFpVWUE/edit?usp=sharing

It needs to go AFTER CCOR_Skyre_Races_Patch.esp. Provided as is and I reserve the right to tweak it without notice.

 

 

As far as I can tell, there are no conflicts between OBIS and Skyre. The mod authors state:

 

I didn't see any conflicts where OBIS didn't win out over Skyre.

 

Messaged ipmlj a copy of this:

Just wanted to let you know that I saw a faction conflict that is included in SR Conflict Resolution, namely:0001BCC0 BanditFactionSkyre conflicts with the above and another:000E0CD9 BanditAllyFactionMy limited knowledge would suggest to copy these both over to SR Conflict Resolution, and that's what I plan to do with my build. Let me know if you would like me to do something else.

 

In the meantime I noticed this as well:

0003E691 WolfFaction 

Alternate start and SR Conflict Resolution conflicts with Falskaar Skyre Faction Patch. I'm going to just copy them into Falskaar, but I feel weird about modifying someone else's work and distributing it, so feel free to make the change yourself.

That is awesome Gimpyone! Thank you for digging into this.

 

I've been so focused on the armors lately and I haven't delved into much else. I really want to get BYOD & OBIS included and from the looks of things your investigation and work will make that happen! Keep posting the things you find and are able to fix. I'll try to hurry up and figure out how to fix these armor issues so I can move on to weapons.

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