Freezing near the entrance to Riverwood.

[TigerWolfe]

• Been trying to find the answer/solution to this for several days now. Reinstalled STEP + the 2 patches I'm using twice. Turned off Burn Freeze Shock that wasn't enough. Quite frustrated. 

System

Using Mod Organizer

 

 

[spoiler=Load Order]

• Skyrim.esm
  CRC: C665FD56

• Update.esm
  CRC: 1FDAB215
  C.Location, Delev, Invent, Relev

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

CRC: 194004C7

Version: 2.0.8a

C.Acoustic, C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.ImageSpace, C.Light, C.Location, C.LTemplate, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, Stats

Dawnguard.esm

CRC: F5EEC0BD

C.Location, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

CRC: 978D216D

Version: 2.0.8

C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, Stats

HearthFires.esm

CRC: F4DDC851

C.Location, Graphics, Invent

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

CRC: 6D0E4588

Version: 2.0.8

C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound

Dragonborn.esm

CRC: 28638040

C.Location, Graphics, Invent, Names

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

CRC: 7BD54BF8

Version: 2.0.8

C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, Stats

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

CRC: FE33A011

Falskaar.esm

CRC: 7889C5B8

Version: 1.1.4

Wyrmstooth.esp

CRC: A9C4199A

Version: 1.14

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

CRC: FA823B6F

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

CRC: AC4A653A

dragonborngalleryNEW.esp

CRC: 821683EE

Version: 30+

WinterholdDestruction.esm

CRC: 3E83CFC0

ORS_SolitudeGate.esm

CRC: 8EC27DFD

ORS_MorthalPain.esm

CRC: 39736C76

mannyDragonhead.esm

CRC: B197331

mannyBlackRock.esm

CRC: 4BD7B551

moonpath.esm

CRC: 50A19275

• Warning: Contains 1 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.

HighResTexturePack01.esp

CRC: D596F02A

HighResTexturePack02.esp

CRC: D596F02A

HighResTexturePack03.esp

CRC: D596F02A

Cutting Room Floor.esp

CRC: C544E958

Version: 1.1.1

C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, Delev, Invent, Names, Stats

3DNPC.esp

CRC: DF187B46

Version: 3.08

ETaC - Complete.esp

CRC: 18F0A3FF

• Note: It is recommended to also install the 3DNPC patch for Expanded Towns and Cities.

Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp

CRC: E9D5C12B

Footprints.esp

CRC: BFAF15E8

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp

CRC: 70139025

Version: 4.1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

CRC: 4B399546

ORM-Arvak.esp

CRC: EAE05BDD

DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp

CRC: BD3A207D

GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp

CRC: 3EE05DD0

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

CRC: C4ED7762

Brows.esp

CRC: AC68717A

Version: 30411

Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

CRC: B473FA3

Footprints - Ash.esp

CRC: D3E16A61

BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp

CRC: 66E9EC89

RaceMenu.esp

CRC: 2765B7D0

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

CRC: 3A253C5D

WetandCold.esp

CRC: BEAB0A2F

Version: 1.422

Convenient Horses.esp

CRC: A2C92D5C

Version: 14950

• Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

BFSEffects.esp

CRC: ACF3CA6F

Version: 3.6

DragonShoutVoice.esp

CRC: DB709B74

Traps Make Noise.esp

CRC: 8777E2C7

DragonbornGalleryPatchV2.esp

CRC: 6010EE56

ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp

CRC: C730D9F6

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

CRC: AFACD2E9

• Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

CRC: 6C0E1257

• Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp.

ClamsDropPearls.esp

CRC: FC8EBCE9

Moss Rocks.esp

CRC: 40AB761A

Moss Rocks_DB.esp

CRC: 367B849A

Elemental Staves.esp

CRC: B0462604

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

CRC: 9229A0B4

mintylightningmod.esp

CRC: 83F77041

Beards.esp

CRC: 85B4CEFA

Version: 28363

Lock Overhaul.esp

CRC: 3FB2EDFA

Paralyze.esp

CRC: B60BC46D

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

CRC: 1510365E

Version: 1.09

SkyUI.esp

CRC: 9330CAF7

Version: 4.1

TradeBarter.esp

CRC: AC24F58B

Delev, Relev

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

CRC: 49778E0B

• Note: Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

CRC: 8A8A009F

• Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

CRC: F7B2BC5

Version: 5.0

Delev, Names, Relev, Stats

Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp

CRC: 399C31A9

Delev, Names, Relev, Stats

ADS.esp

CRC: 73426A08

ORS_DremoraUpdate.esp

CRC: 2C66C6B4

Rainbows.esp

CRC: 547F5D56

Version: 1.05

RealisticRoomRental.esp

CRC: F2A80AE6

ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp

CRC: 61C50D1

Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

CRC: 34E8C367

Version: 2.3

• Warning: Contains 1 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

CRC: 175581E1

Version: 1.3

Delev, Names, Relev, Stats

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp

CRC: EA004B82

CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

CRC: E691A93

ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp

CRC: 395F31E4

Helgen Reborn.esp

CRC: 91F56C13

Version: 105.3

Distant DetailHF.esp

CRC: 716CD1C4

• Note: Detailed guide for cleaning.

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp

CRC: 7FFC096F

Version: 3.0.esp

ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp

CRC: 25616A5B

SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp

CRC: E702947E

Delev

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

CRC: E6DE6D0B

Version: 2.0

C.Location

ESFCompanions.esp

CRC: CF7C7A14

Version: 0.3.7

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

CRC: C71C862D

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

CRC: 8617DA3B

BetterQuestObjectives-PersidRRentalPatch.esp

CRC: CDC41A73

NonEssentialChildren.esp

CRC: BAE841DB

[object Object]

Immersive Weapons.esp

CRC: E41D31D

Delev, Relev

CWINPCImprovements.esp

CRC: 39454AC7

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

CRC: 348EC321

Version: 3.0

REGS - Better Docks.esp

CRC: A8992C97

BFT Ships and Carriages.esp

CRC: 79EA7D8

RBB - REGS Merge.esp

CRC: 7C1FF43

HearthfireChimneysFalskaar.esp

CRC: 617BBAE7

ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp

CRC: C8418FA

MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

CRC: E19B3101

Immersive Whiterun.esp

CRC: B3BB7D3A

Immersive Solstheim.esp

CRC: B202DDFF

Sky Haven Temple M&M3.esp

CRC: A7DD81EE

ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp

CRC: F333B0E5

Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp

CRC: 9B6B8DEE

JKs Windhelm.esp

CRC: 42169929

Version: 1.2b

JKs Solitude.esp

CRC: D61B7A6F

Version: 1.2

NerniesCityandVillageExpansion.esp

CRC: 52B4A96B

Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp

CRC: E688076D

BetterDGEntrance.esp

CRC: 4CF8DF37

Version: 1.0

BirdsHFclean.esp

CRC: 3354E095

BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp

CRC: EB7D5B73

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

CRC: E8A4F39C

Dead Body Collision.esp

CRC: B8B71CA1

Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp

CRC: BDE8703C

ShootingStars.esp

CRC: 5B89D5C9

Version: 1.041

Soul Gems Differ - NW.esp

CRC: 33D5C96B

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

CRC: 5E9DC415

Version: 1.4

JKs Whiterun.esp

CRC: EC03B9F

Version: 1.1

SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp

CRC: B1293726

Point The Way.esp

CRC: 70EB4515

Version: 1.0.4

HearthfireChimneys - ETaC.esp

CRC: D7D20B16

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

CRC: A505BEA9

Version: 1.11

AOS.esp

CRC: 991F0B89

Version: 2.2DGDB

IHSS.esp

CRC: 8E27DF44

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

CRC: 455C0C6A

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

CRC: 674C05BC

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

CRC: 7409094B

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

CRC: FB51E4FC

SMDropLitTorch.esp

CRC: 1D97B006

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

CRC: CC1A0B4E

Version: 1.0

WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

CRC: 79C7AB7C

When Vampires Attack.esp

CRC: 8C43D3E8

Version: 2.0.3

aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

CRC: EEDD984B

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

CRC: A4E43BB4

Version: 1.5

Delev, Names, Relev, Stats

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

CRC: 2A9F7DED

Version: 7.1

[object Object], [object Object]

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

CRC: A0056AE4

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

CRC: C9DB0844

Run For Your Lives.esp

CRC: B7BAFE68

Version: 2.0.3

Nightingale Hall.esp

CRC: 288A181C

Understone Keep Repair.esp

CRC: F56364D6

DawnofRiften.esp

CRC: 356D10D1

Immersive Armors for NPC's Revisited DG.esp

CRC: D101A3CA

ORS_ChaptersLinker.esp

CRC: 8C6B18CE

moonpath_questdata.esp

CRC: 78CAE957

• Warning: Contains 1 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.

ETaC - Complete Moon Patch.esp

CRC: 71249EFF

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

CRC: D3DD4ABE

UniqueBorderGates-All.esp

CRC: A99F3D24

JKs Markarth.esp

CRC: AA06D71E

Version: 1.1

RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp

CRC: BDB38E3F

iHUD.esp

CRC: 6098B756

imp_helm_legend.esp

CRC: C1285FFF

Version: 1.11

quest_nomercy.esp

CRC: F2D9A8DE

ETaC - Complete BFT Patch.esp

CRC: BD23490A

ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp

CRC: D8865206

SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp

CRC: D0427B6

Version: 1.1

• Note: Use only one SkyrimImprovedPuddles esp.

SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp

CRC: AACFD505

tos_laintardale_hf.esp

CRC: A9313686

DBM_IWIA_Patch.esp

CRC: 3C5FE467

KhalSpellmakingMod.esp

CRC: 1BE817CD

DBM_IW_Patch.esp

CRC: 4FFDB4C3

DBM_IA_Patch.esp

CRC: CF76300A

DBM_Moonpaths_addon.esp

CRC: 3AE27473

CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp

CRC: 7A31B350

randomthunder.esp

CRC: 1058BBB4

quest_seaofghosts.esp

CRC: BA5522E5

tos_amber_guard.esp

CRC: 85FD0021

ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp

CRC: 8EF18657

tos_granitehall.esp

CRC: 34180CA4

Provincial Courier Service.esp

CRC: 3E2824E4

Version: 1.2.4

C.Location

quest_pitfighter.esp

CRC: B10B5123

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

CRC: 70A70428

quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp

CRC: CBECA3BA

Better City Entrances - No Whiterun.esp

CRC: 1AC469BB

Snowbound Acres.esp

CRC: 886B3BE

REGS Patch - Riften NavFull.esp

CRC: 758FB1A7

Version: 3.4.2

ETaC - Complete ORS Patch.esp

CRC: 8F226589

REGS Patch - 3DNPC.esp

CRC: 3040254C

UniqueBorderGates-All-BetterDGEntrance.esp

CRC: B4B9957A

REGS Patch - NSutR + RRR.esp

CRC: A16E2A46

PilgrimsDelight.esp

CRC: 2C24D5A5

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

CRC: 9BA892A1

Version: 1.2.8

Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp

CRC: 77625F2B

REGS Patch - STEP Extended.esp

CRC: 3EBAD46E

ETaC - Whiterun Ext LoS Patch.esp

CRC: 8038B99D

ETaC Complete - BOYD NPC Fix.esp

CRC: F38BA689

Windhelm Lighthouse.esp

CRC: 9C6761F3

MzarkWonders.esp

CRC: A5DD6DFC

Aethernautics.esp

CRC: 5AD3E1F1

PP_OgmundsTomb.esp

CRC: 9E84039C

high hrothgar overhaul.esp

CRC: DFF70AC9

BlockSparkles.esp

CRC: 7EA628AA

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

CRC: 5111AD5F

Version: 1.2.6

SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp

CRC: B1BD0CA6

Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp

CRC: 9ACA909A

Version: 2.3

TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp

CRC: 8BD6B852

UniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.esp

CRC: FB5D20A4

Apple garden.esp

CRC: EE74B35F

PP_WindcallerPass.esp

CRC: 270264AE

quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp

CRC: B67A54BE

Chesko_Step418_SN.esp

CRC: 7A15383C

RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp

CRC: AEB238D4

STEP Extended Patch.esp

CRC: B8F0C80A

Version: 2.2.9

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

CRC: E93FCE60

Version: 219

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

• Followed STEP then installed 2 STEP Packs followed by about 3 or 4 other mods I wanted to run. 

No additional ini tweaks.

 

Freeze

 

• Between Helgen and Riverwood. Always at least after the two wolves. Sometimes as far as actually entering Riverwood.

Ralof, sometimes the wolves, sometimes a Riverwood NPC or 2. Sometimes I'm completely away from everyone. 

Either just walking, or trying to attack one of the wolves.

 

I've been running the Papyrus Logs so if someone would like to see those I can provide them. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

Edited December 18, 2014 by TigerWolfe

[keithinhanoi]

@TigerWolfe - If those two lines I mentioned in my previous are not in skse_steam_loader.log, then the heap block memory fix setting in your skse.ini wasn't read, plain and simple. Even your test with Memory Blocks Log confirms this.

 

So, I will go out on a limb and say that you have discovered your problem right there.

 

A majority of the times I've seen people claiming the SKSE implementation of Sheson's memory fix doesn't work either:

• did not actually have skse.ini in the correct location,
• had not updated to SKSE 1.7.1, or
• had set Windows to hide file extensions, and accidentally saved skse.ini as skse.ini.txt (as Nozzer66 points out)

SKSE will look for the skse.ini file in ... Skyrim/Data/SKSE/

 

Alternatively, if SKSE's script files have been installed as a mod in Mod Organizer, the .ini can be kept in there, in a subfolder named SKSE, like this:

 

 

I would suggest this method for storing the skse.ini because then you can edit it directly in MO - just click on the INI-files tab as seen in the above pic of the mod info window, and then choose skse.ini to edit right in that window.

 

Until you see those two lines in skse_steam_loader.log, and verified that block 1 can go over 256, there is honestly no use in looking at other reasons for the CTDs.

 

If your skse.ini is in the correct location but the heap size lines are still not appearing in skse_steam_loader.log let us know, and we can help troubleshoot why it's not working.

 

Good luck!

 

 

@Vulgar1 -

 

Regarding your iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes setting - with absolutely no personal offence meant towards you, that is a ridiculously high number, and although not necessarily CTD-inducing, will almost guaranteed lead to Papyrus stack dumping, which means at best you get massive script lag, and at worst lots of scripts won't run or finish - in other words, things won't work as intended or expected.

 

I have just posted about this and the myth about another supposed "magical" game-fixing .ini setting in the Correct Enblocal Settings thread, here. I highly recommend reading it.

 

(Post edited to add one more reason why the SKSE implementation of the memory patch may not work - thanks to Nozzer66 for the reminder!!)

Edited December 19, 2014 by keithinhanoi

[Nozzer66]

You're definitely running ENBoost? 

 

And your SKSE ini might help, too.

[TigerWolfe]

I'm fairly certain I'm running ENBoost. It tells me I'm using my integrated graphics card at the start of every session (I'm actually using my Nvidia card). 

 

 

[Display]

iTintTextureResolution=2048

 

[General]

ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

 

[Memory]

DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768

ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

That's all I have in my SKSE.ini

[TigerWolfe]

This appears to be at the end of my last four Papyrus logs.

 

[12/17/2014 - 06:59:40PM] Warning: Property DLC1VampireBeastRace on script zbloodnpc attached to Active effect 4 on  (17990074) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

 

 

Google says it's Enhanced Blood Textures. Should I just go it without that? Or is there a relatively simple fix?

[Vulgar1]

Get rid of enhanced blood textures and just use the brawl bugs patch, i had this problem and that is just one of the things that helped.

If you still have problems I'd suggest not using the following:

Footsteps

Wet and Cold

Minty Lightnig Mod

Shooting Stars

The Choice Is Yours

Better Quest Objectives

Drop Lit Torches

You can keep the textures from Deadly Spell Impacts but get rid of the esp.

And I don't know why the same couldn't be said for Enhanced Blood Textures.

Trust that your game will run WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better without those mods.

The problem you then run into is the STEP and REGS patches but you might want to look into making some adjustments. It's up to you to save your Skyrim.

[Nozzer66]

It's telling you you're using your integrated card versus your nVidia discrete card? Something not quite kosher there.

[TigerWolfe]

Is there a way to modify the STEP patch, so it doesn't have that EBT dependency?

[Vulgar1]

Is there a way to modify the STEP patch, so it doesn't have that EBT dependency?

Yes but it's pretty difficult and requires extensive knowledge of TES5Edit. It would be easier for you to use the STEP Core patch instead of the STEP Extended Patch and then manually download and install any other patches in the extended patch from each of the mods original source pages. There really aren't that many.

You can find out which mods need manual patching by looking through the change logs here

https://wiki.step-project.com/STEP_Patches#Recommendations

Just from a quick glance I can tell you if you remove EBT it will effect the STEP Extended patch because of these two mods Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2 and Improved Combat Sounds.

 

EDIT: Everything you need to know is in the wiki link above.

Edited December 18, 2014 by Vulgar1

[phazer11]

It sounds like the lvlpredatorscript.

 

Now, were you just running the papyrus logs for fun or did you turn them on to diagnose the issue after you started having it?

[Vulgar1]

After he fixes the crash between Riverwood and the Guide Stones he'll have to deal with the Companions fighting the Giant on the way to Whiterun crash.

[TigerWolfe]

I turned on Papyrus for diagnosis purposes. So I killed the EBT.esp and switched over to the STEP Core patch (haven't installed the extra patches yet). Then got a CTD that appeared to be triggered by the SM drop lit torch. So I killed that. Crash to desktop again, right outside Riverwood (what's the deal with Riverwood?). Papyrus has this as the last several script calls.

 

 

zBloodNPCQuestUpdateScript.psc

 

 

Looks like that's EBT too... I don't have any of the EBT esps running though, why would it still be trying to call a script? Just gonna deactivate EBT all the way, bummer about the textures but we'll see what happens. 

Edited December 18, 2014 by TigerWolfe

[TigerWolfe]

Now we're just CTD'ing. Looks like maybe Footprints is the last thing trying to load... 

 

:bashes head against wall:

[Vulgar1]

Don't forget you'll have to run LOOT, Wrye Bash, TES5Edit, Wrye Bash agai, DSR, and FNIS.

 

EDIT: EBT, Drop lit torches, footprints, I'm sensing a pattern.

Try making these these change in your skyrim.ini in MO

[Papyrus]

fUpdateBudgetMS=1.4

fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.4

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0

iMinMemoryPageSize=128

iMaxMemoryPageSize=512

iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=76800

bEnableLogging=0

bEnableTrace=0

bLoadDebugInformation=0

bEnableProfiling=0

Edited December 18, 2014 by Vulgar1

[TigerWolfe]

Make those changes and keep the mods uninstalled?

[Vulgar1]

Well that's up to you. I personally don't use those three or the or the other ones I listed because they are script heavy and they take space and plug-in slots. There are other mods I'd rather use.

Plus the three you've listed so far are constantly running scripts especially Footprints and EBT. Think about it everytime you take a step the game is being given new information thats not even originally part of the game.

If you want to keep Wet and Cold and the other ones I listed you should at least get rid of the three you are having problems with now and make those changes.

Throw up your specs, enblocal.ini, skyrim.ini, and skyrimprefs.ini and maybe you can get more help.

 

EDIT: Checked out your system, it's decent but you only have 2gb vram. What was Nozzer saying about you integrated card being used instead of nvidia?

 

Also try this real quick in MO click the gears, under SKSE add this to the arguements space: -forcesteamloader

 

*hot damn there were a lot of errors in this post

Edited December 18, 2014 by Vulgar1