Weird "stretched" textures

[Halde]

Hi all!

 

So I have some textures, that are acting sort of odd. As if they are not covered by my various graphic overhauls.

Here are some screenshots that showcase the issue.

 

I use both Skyrim HD Full (unoptimized) and the SRO provided by the torrent linked in the STEP guide.

 

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I'm honestly a bit clueless what could cause this. Previously I used Skyrim HD Lite, which I optimized myself. Thinking I did it wrong, I downloaded the Full version and didn't optimize it. This didn't change anything however. I have SRO placed after Skyrim HD in installation order in ModOrganizer. My vanilla texture is "High", and those are optimized according to STEP.

Edited April 15, 2015 by Halde

[Aiyen]

Looks like you got a rock texture and cave wall texture that does not do the best blending job in the book. 

Rocks are often used as clutter in caves to make them look more interesting. However they should share more or less the same type of texture, however it is ofc. possible for you to have a different one for one and the other. 

 

I guess it would also be helpful if you post which location that is specifically. 

[TechAngel85]

Make sure aMidianBorn Caves and Mines is winning all but two of the conflicts.

[Halde]

These are all Knife Lost Cave/Knife Lost Hideout (not too sure, it's the one you immidiatly can enter, not the one within the first cave). I can inform that the same thing appeared in Ember Shard Mine and Bleak Falls Barrow. The texture type in these places appear exactly like this one, so it is probably the same texture that are acting wonky.

 

Re-Defined Dungeons overwrite two files from aMidianBorn Caves and Mines, which are the only two files in the "The following conflicted files are provided by other mods" tab in "Information". Is this what you are refering to @TechAngel85?

 

Furthermore, it is not solely the rock. If you notice the second image from the top, you can sense a line (due to the left side being angled upward), and on the angled side, the gravel is of substantially worse quality as well. The same sort of thing appeared on some rocks out in the open. I haven't gathered screenshots from this, but I can. Here, the moss on the rocks seems so stretched. It is far more noticeable in 1st person view, but it is not at all hard to notice when just walking past them. 

Edited April 15, 2015 by Halde

[TechAngel85]

Most caves and mines use the same files so this should be an issue in multiple locations. Last time I was in a cave and mine, they didn't look like this.

[Octopuss]

I am 99% sure this has nothing to do with textures. I believe it's a problem with the super ultra crappy vanilla meshes and the only person who can probably fix this is Brumbek. I actually made him fix very similar thing few months ago for SMIM.

 

Unfortunately, the game is full of stuff like this :(

 

P.S. Cabal's caves are unfortunately not the best textures around :( I suggest looking at raiserfx's Beauty of Skyrim version.

Edited April 15, 2015 by Octopuss

[Halde]

I have SMIM as well however.

 

Is there a way to fix this?

Edited April 15, 2015 by Halde

[Octopuss]

I said similar, not the same.

Yes, you can fix it if you are an expert with Nifskope...

[Halde]

Am I really the only one who has noticed this? If this is a mesh problem, and it has not been covered by a STEP mod (or any mod for that matter) I would imagine that a lot of people have this "problem".

[Octopuss]

No you are not. You are in a minority though. Most players probably don't pay attention to detail. I intentionally run around corners and edges and whatever, taking screenshots where appropriate and sending them to Brumbek in case he find the particular meshes worth tweaking.

[TirigonX]

Well if it is a mesh problem, you could try this mod: No Stretching (use the USKP compatible version)

It fixes many stretched meshes. In MO's left pane you should put it after the unofficial patches but before any other mesh altering mods like SMIM and Vivid Landscapes.

You don't need the esp file if you let MO manage bsa files. It's just a dummy plugin.

[TechAngel85]

Don't use that mod with STEP. It used to be in STEP and a was dropped bc it made some things look worse.

[Halde]

What if I use it, and only keep the rock/cave meshes, delete the rest, and put them before SMIM?

[TechAngel85]

It was mainly the ground related and mountain textures that got it dropped from STEP so that should be fine.

[Halde]

Can you tell me how to extract BSAs with MO? I turned of the automatic extraction a long time ago, and this mod is 1 .bsa and 1 .esp.

 

Nvm, I found it in the ModOrganizer.ini

Edited April 26, 2015 by Halde

[kuroyume87]

Sorry to exploit this topic, but actually I have a very similar problem, just with snowy rocky textures. I tried to look aroud with google for an answer and I noticed it seems to be a recurrent problem. It is especially noticeable at the very exit of the cave at the beginning of the game (just before going out and looking at Alduin flying away in the distance) and in many other places on the way to Riverwood and around that village. I didn't take screens myself, but the effect is very similar to the one shown on the 3rd picture at this link:

 

https://imgur.com/a/SHt50
 

Ehm... am I the only one? And is there a way to solve this, perhalps with that "no stretching" mod linked above? Thanks in advance!