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Fallout 3 GOTY Application load error 5:0000065434 When Launching FOSE from within MO


RevReese

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Hi all!.

 

I have recently switched to MO from FOMM after a Windows Reinstall (Win7 64bit) and have had no problems with it whatsoever with Skyrim (so far).

 

But when I try to run Fallout 3 with a handful of mods through the FOSE link in MO it crashes instantly with the above Steam error ("Application load error 5:0000065434").

 

I have posted in the Steam forums about this problem and will feedback anything useful here.

 

The game loads fine from Steam (obviously mod-free) and from FOMM (though my mods do not appear when using FOMM).

 

It also appears to load fine when I click on the fose_loader in the game folder though that will not load my mods will it? even if I have MO open in the background.

 

I have tried all the standard fixes (editing the Fallout.ini and fallout_default.ini files with bUseThreadedAI=1
iNumHWThreads=2).

 

Used LOOT to set my load order.

 

Setting Fallout3.exe, FalloutLauncher.exe and fose_loader.exe to compatibility to Win XP SP3.

 

Running fose_loader as admin.

 

Adding d3d9.dll to the game folder.

 

Running without mods enabled and with (same crash).

 

Renaming ClientRegistry.blob from the Steam install folder.

 

Here is my load order:

 

[spoiler=Load Order]# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
StreetLights.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
aHUD.esm
EVE.esm
iHUD.esm
Fellout-Anchorage.esp
Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp
Fellout-PointLookout.esp
Fellout-pipboylight.esp
Fellout-Zeta.esp
megalight.esp
Fellout-Full.esp

 

 

I am fresh out of ideas so any help from you guys would be greatly appreciated!.

 

Other than this problem, I am having a blast with MO! I successfully modded my Skyrim back to it's previous state within a few hours!.

 

Thank you for your time.

 

 

 

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The issue of running MO as administrator should not be under-estimated. If Steam is started as an administrator's process and MO is started as a regular user process, MO won't be able to 'see' the elevated level processes of the system, which in this case will include Steam.

 

This is why it is stated over and over again to install Steam and any games that use it, along with MO, outside of ANY UAC folders, thus avoiding the need to use administrator rights to start one or more processes.

 

One last thing, the original issue was resolved when the user applied the latest update from Steam, have you likewise kept Steam up-to-date?

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If you have Steam and Fallout 3 in a non-UAC directory, especially if you have configured the directories for Steam, MO, and the game files for full control by all users, there is no need to use "run as an administrator" with MO. In some cases, as Tanin pointed out a while ago, this could actually cause a problem. (I'm not sure if this is an issue for you).

 

If the mods are setup for use with MO then they are not in the actual game Data folder, so they will no be visible to Steam or any executable in the Fallout 3 Goty directory unless the game is launched by MO. Having MO in the background doesn't help, it needs to run the game launcher that is used.

 

Try running an MO profile with only the vanilla files (no additional mods) and see if FO3 can start using the FO3 Launcher or FOSE. In each case look at the logs produced in the Mod Organizer\logs folder. The log is small so you might want to post it here.

I have tried running vanilla FO3 via MO but have the same issue with the same error.

 

Using the FO3 launcher causes the same error (5:0000065434) but using fose_loader loads the game fine (though obviously without mods).

The issue of running MO as administrator should not be under-estimated. If Steam is started as an administrator's process and MO is started as a regular user process, MO won't be able to 'see' the elevated level processes of the system, which in this case will include Steam.

 

This is why it is stated over and over again to install Steam and any games that use it, along with MO, outside of ANY UAC folders, thus avoiding the need to use administrator rights to start one or more processes.

 

One last thing, the original issue was resolved when the user applied the latest update from Steam, have you likewise kept Steam up-to-date?

I have tried running Steam as Administrator and MO as Administrator (steam is not installed in a UAC directory) but crashes with the error: P:0000065432.

 

I have the latest version of Steam updated today.

 

Latest log (ModOrganizer_15_05_16_13_40_2.log):

 

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INFO (14:40:50.0236): Windows 6.1 (workstation)

INFO (14:40:50.0236): hook.dll v2.7.4

INFO (14:40:50.0236): Code page: 1252

INFO (14:40:50.0236): injecting to D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 3 goty\FalloutLauncher.exe

INFO (14:40:50.0236): using profile Default

INFO (14:40:50.0236): data path is D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\data

DEBUG (14:40:50.0237): mods are in "D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Mod Organizer\mods"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "DCInteriors combo Edition Total Merge"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "NMC FO3 Texture Pack Large Patch"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "NMCs Texture Pack Performance Pack"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "Fallout Street Lights"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "Megaton Lighting Overhaul"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "Fellout DLC Support"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "Fellout 1 21R2"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "Energy Visuals Enhanced"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "Updated Unofficial Fallout3 Patch Mod Manager Version"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "Adjustable HUD - Vanilla and MTUI"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "Immersive HUD - iHUD"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "UIO - User Interface Organizer"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "*Unmanaged: Fallout3"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "*Unmanaged: Anchorage"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "*Unmanaged: BrokenSteel"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "*Unmanaged: PointLookout"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "*Unmanaged: ThePitt"

INFO (14:40:50.0237): using mod "*Unmanaged: Zeta"

DEBUG (14:40:50.0240): reading BSA Zeta - Main.bsa

DEBUG (14:40:50.0291): reading BSA Zeta - Sounds.bsa

DEBUG (14:40:50.0292): reading BSA ThePitt - Main.bsa

DEBUG (14:40:50.0353): reading BSA ThePitt - Sounds.bsa

DEBUG (14:40:50.0354): reading BSA PointLookout - Main.bsa

DEBUG (14:40:50.0402): reading BSA PointLookout - Sounds.bsa

DEBUG (14:40:50.0404): reading BSA BrokenSteel - Main.bsa

DEBUG (14:40:50.0455): reading BSA BrokenSteel - Sounds.bsa

DEBUG (14:40:50.0456): reading BSA Anchorage - Main.bsa

DEBUG (14:40:50.0503): reading BSA Anchorage - Sounds.bsa

DEBUG (14:40:50.0505): indexing UIO - User Interface Organizer

DEBUG (14:40:50.0506): indexing Immersive HUD - iHUD

DEBUG (14:40:50.0506): indexing Adjustable HUD - Vanilla and MTUI

DEBUG (14:40:50.0507): indexing Updated Unofficial Fallout3 Patch Mod Manager Version

DEBUG (14:40:50.0551): reading BSA Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.bsa

DEBUG (14:40:50.0552): indexing Energy Visuals Enhanced

DEBUG (14:40:50.0572): indexing Fellout 1 21R2

DEBUG (14:40:50.0573): indexing Fellout DLC Support

DEBUG (14:40:50.0573): indexing Megaton Lighting Overhaul

DEBUG (14:40:50.0574): indexing Fallout Street Lights

DEBUG (14:40:50.0575): indexing NMCs Texture Pack Performance Pack

DEBUG (14:40:50.0589): indexing NMC FO3 Texture Pack Large Patch

DEBUG (14:40:50.0590): indexing DCInteriors combo Edition Total Merge

DEBUG (14:40:50.0590): reading BSA DCInteriors_ComboEdition.bsa

DEBUG (14:40:50.0604): indexing overwrite

DEBUG (14:40:50.0605): update vfs took 0 seconds

DEBUG (14:40:50.0605): data path: D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\data

DEBUG (14:40:50.0605): will apply fallout specific workaround

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aaa" maps to "Fallout - MenuVoices.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aab" maps to "Fallout - Meshes.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aac" maps to "Fallout - Misc.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aad" maps to "Fallout - Sound.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aae" maps to "Fallout - Textures.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aaf" maps to "Fallout - Voices.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aag" maps to "Zeta - Main.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aah" maps to "Zeta - Sounds.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aai" maps to "ThePitt - Main.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aaj" maps to "ThePitt - Sounds.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aak" maps to "PointLookout - Main.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aal" maps to "PointLookout - Sounds.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aam" maps to "BrokenSteel - Main.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aan" maps to "BrokenSteel - Sounds.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aao" maps to "Anchorage - Main.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aap" maps to "Anchorage - Sounds.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aaq" maps to "Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): "aar" maps to "DCInteriors_ComboEdition.bsa"

INFO (14:40:50.0605): resource list: aaa,aab,aac,aad,aae,aaf,aag,aah,aai,aaj,aak,aal,aam,aan,aao,aap,aaq,aar

INFO (14:40:50.0605): working directory: D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty

DEBUG (14:40:50.0605): hook for CreateProcessA installed at 75511072 (trampoline at 002A0000)

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DEBUG (14:40:50.0617): all hooks installed

INFO (14:40:50.0617): injection done

DEBUG (14:41:16.0325): hooks removed

 

Latest interface log (mo_interface.log):

14:40:45 [D] ssl support: 0

14:40:45 [D] Working directory: D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Mod Organizer

14:40:45 [D] MO at: D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Mod Organizer

14:40:46 [D] looking for plugins in D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Mod Organizer\plugins

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "bsaExtractor.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "checkFNIS.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "diagnoseBasic.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "gameFallout3.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "gameFalloutNV.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "gameOblivion.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "gameSkyrim.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "iniEditor.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "installerBAIN.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "installerBundle.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "installerFomod.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "installerManual.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "installerNCC.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "installerQuick.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "NMMImport.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "previewBase.dll"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "pyCfg.py"

14:40:46 [D] loaded plugin "proxyPython.dll"

14:40:46 [D] game path: D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty

14:40:46 [D] managing game at D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty

14:40:46 [D] setting up configured executables

14:40:46 [D] configured profile: Default

14:40:46 [D] initializing tutorials

14:40:46 [D] loaded language en-US

14:40:46 [D] interface Local Area Connection seems to be up (address: fe80::c1d6:af75:9591:1de2%11)

14:40:46 [D] displaying main window

14:40:46 [D] D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default\modlist.txt saved

14:40:47 [D] this version is newer than the current version on nexus (1.3.4.0 vs 1.2.18.0)

14:40:49 [D] D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default\initweaks.ini saved

14:40:49 [D] D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default\plugins.txt saved

14:40:49 [D] D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default\loadorder.txt saved

14:40:49 [D] D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default\lockedorder.txt saved

14:40:49 [D] setting file times on esps

14:40:49 [D] D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default\archives.txt saved

14:41:17 [D] removing loadorder.txt

14:41:17 [D] D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default\loadorder.txt saved

14:41:17 [D] D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default\lockedorder.txt saved

14:41:17 [D] setting file times on esps

14:41:18 [D] interface Local Area Connection seems to be up (address: fe80::c1d6:af75:9591:1de2%11)

14:41:18 [D] save D:/Steam/SteamApps/common/Fallout 3 goty/Mod Organizer/webcache/cookies.dat

14:41:18 [D] D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default\initweaks.ini saved

14:41:18 [D] D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Mod Organizer\profiles\Default\lockedorder.txt saved

14:41:18 [D] setting file times on esps

14:41:18 [D] save D:/Steam/SteamApps/common/Fallout 3 goty/Mod Organizer/webcache/nexus_cookies.dat

 

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Your logs show no issues with MO creating or using the VFS for the game to run in, all the hooks are successful.

 

Is there anything 'odd' about your copy of Fallout? Did you get a cheap copy from overseas, perhaps a European version that has been renamed?

Have you patched it with anything?

Could you provide a CRC of the file so we can match it to copies known to work?

 

These are some checksums of my file:

File:       Fallout3.exe

CRC-32: cf353836

MD4:     95b817a78211a92273dadf55b3339212
MD5:     bd5a2117dceb87831abdb7043e27ea62
SHA-1:  8a98757889d9164bf8ec0fd0118fee96691939de
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No, there is nothing odd about it, just the Steam GotY version bought during a sale.

 

I used FileAlyzer.

 

Fallout3.exe

CRC 32 - 0B3862DB

MD5 - 6AC349AB0980C713CD8FFB37199443F3

SHA 1 - 7A6D3948B6D0BD7BE97B71769A14D3C084609331

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I have the same CRC-32 for my my fallout 3 as GrantSP. I originally bought the retail CD for Fallout 3 (not GOTY) but later bought the Steam version of Fallout 3 GOTY, and I used Steam to get the files for my Fallout 3 GOTY directory. I have run the Large Address Enabler program on my fallout3.exe file; I expect that RevReese has also done this as per the guide.

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I have the same CRC-32 for my my fallout 3 as GrantSP. I originally bought the retail CD for Fallout 3 (not GOTY) but later bought the Steam version of Fallout 3 GOTY, and I used Steam to get the files for my Fallout 3 GOTY directory. I have run the Large Address Enabler program on my fallout3.exe file; I expect that RevReese has also done this as per the guide.

Yes, my fallout3.exe is Large Address Enabled, but still same error (P:0000065432).

 

I am also using MO 1.3.5 but still the same error.

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I can't figure out why your checksums are so different to ours. I just uninstalled the GOTY version I had and installed an old original version and then ran the 1.7 Update on the exe and applied the LAA patch, still got the same checksums as I have now.

 

All I can think of is the Steam client is checking for a specific file and, for whatever reason, your files don't meet that criteria and it errors out.

Like I mentioned earlier, this isn't really an error caused by MO, but by Steam and unfortunately I can't see a way to fix it without some intervention by Valve with regards to their Steam client.

 

Sorry to say it but I'm out of ideas.

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Go to the Steam\steamapps directory. Look at what is in appmanifest_22370.acf (22370 is the steam id for Fallout 3 GOTY). If you don't have such a file then there is a problem as you have some other version of Fallout 3 GOTY. These are text files by the way. Here is what I have (leaving off a few lines that should not matter):

[spoiler=Fallout 3 GOTY manifest]"AppState"
{
"appID" "22370"
"Universe" "1"
"name" "Fallout 3 - Game of the Year Edition"
"StateFlags" "4"
"InstallDir" "Fallout 3 goty"
"LastUpdated" "1419906400"
"UpdateResult" "0"
"SizeOnDisk" "9474203596"
"buildid" "252141"
"BytesToDownload" "1474594816"
"BytesDownloaded" "1474594816"
"AutoUpdateBehavior" "1"
"AllowOtherDownloadsWhileRunning" "0"
"UserConfig"
{
"name" "Fallout 3 - Game of the Year Edition"
"gameid" "22370"
"language" "english"
}

 

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Thanks for the replies, here is my appmanifest_22370.acf:

 

[spoiler=appmanifest_22370.acf]"AppState"
{
    "appid"        "22370"
    "Universe"        "1"
    "name"        "Fallout 3 - Game of the Year Edition"
    "StateFlags"        "4"
    "installdir"        "Fallout 3 goty"
    "LastUpdated"        "1429610479"
    "UpdateResult"        "0"
    "SizeOnDisk"        "9474203596"
    "buildid"        "252141"
    "LastOwner"        "76561198017432836"
    "BytesToDownload"        "7699376448"
    "BytesDownloaded"        "54330576"
    "AutoUpdateBehavior"        "0"
    "AllowOtherDownloadsWhileRunning"        "0"
    "UserConfig"
    {
        "language"        "english"
    }
    "MountedDepots"
    {
        "22371"        "6752416544246981300"
    }
}

 

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Sorry to intrude on this again, but can you do something for me to satisfy my curiosity? Thanks.

 

Can you do the following, stop MO, go into the ModOrganizer\logs folder and delete the logs there. Start MO and run the FOSE shortcut and let it do its thing. don"t run anything else. Go into the logs folder and zip up the logs there and post them someplace where I can download and see them. I want to do this so I can see the time stamps of the files.

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If I'm reading that correctly, which may not be the case, it appears there are some updates for FO3 in Steam that need downloading. Try those and see what transpires.

Thank you for your reply though there are no updates waiting.

 

Sorry to intrude on this again, but can you do something for me to satisfy my curiosity? Thanks.

 

Can you do the following, stop MO, go into the ModOrganizer\logs folder and delete the logs there. Start MO and run the FOSE shortcut and let it do its thing. don"t run anything else. Go into the logs folder and zip up the logs there and post them someplace where I can download and see them. I want to do this so I can see the time stamps of the files.

Thank you for your reply, I have uploaded the logs you requested here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fpdqaufdp9s6x9u/logs.7z?dl=0

Hope this helps!.

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Unfortunately I don’t have an answer for this and my interpretation of the logs may be wrong, but I may be able to shed some light for others to build upon.

 

 From the logs it looks like MO is doing the following:

  • Running and hooking fose_loader.exe and doing its housekeeping and preparing to load Fallout3.exe. This from ModOrganizer_15_05_29_12_00.log.
  • Running and hooking Fallout3.exe and doing housekeeping and preparing to run FalloutLauncher.exe. This is from ModOrganizer_15_05_29_12_00_1.log.
  • Running and hooking FalloutLauncher.exe. This is where I think the problem is. We should not be doing this, the game should be starting at hooking Fallout3.exe. This is from ModOrganizer_15_05_29_12_00_2.log.

We need to find out why after Fallout3.exe is hooked and I assume not launched, FalloutLauncher.exe is being launched and thus giving the appid fault. If anyone has any ideas or knows if my analysis is flawed please chime in.

 

One thought is to rename the FalloutLauncher.exe and run FOSE and see if it changes anything.

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