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Since some time ago I've managed to successfully complete instal of Skyrim Revisited + REGS + Perma

Everything seems to work as intended exept one annoying thing. No matter if u use quickload or regular load - game keeps crashing to desktop without any visible error message.

I've read that there can be multiple causes of such problem but none sollutions i've managed to find helped in this case.

I can load a game only the 1st time i run Skyrim, then if i die i need to restart the game to load a save again.
While installing this masterpiece i've followed compatibility guides that where available at the time.

 

Here is my load order:

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
EFFCore.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
mannyBlackRock.esm
mannyDragonhead.esm
ORS_MorthalPain.esm
ORS_SolitudeGate.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
WinterholdDestruction.esm
Gray Fox Cowl.esm
MFVM.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp
RelightingSkyrim-FULL.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
AOS.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
TradeBarter.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
AshRocks.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
EpisodeParallax.esp
HoldBorderBanners.esp
Holidays.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
Moss Rocks_DB.esp
MoonGlow.esp
NPC Knockout Overhaul.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
Point The Way.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
High Level Enemies - SIC.esp
High Level Enemies - SIC Falskaar.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
SulfurRocks.esp
Traps Are Dangerous.esp
WM Trap Fixes.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
Footprints.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp
towConversation.esp
UIExtensions.esp
SkyUI.esp
AHZmoreHUD.esp
iHUD.esp
Extended UI.esp
PreventsAccidentPickUp.esp
iNeed.esp
iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
NightingaleArrows.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp
Apple garden.esp
BetterDGEntrance.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp
CWINPCImprovements.esp
DSAMG - Greybeard Fix.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
tos_granitehall.esp
Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp
high hrothgar overhaul.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
Immersive Solstheim.esp
Immersive Whiterun.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
MzarkWonders.esp
Nightingale Hall.esp
quest_nomercy.esp
OBIS.esp
OBISDB.esp
quest_pitfighter.esp
quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp
PP_OgmundsTomb.esp
PP_WindcallerPass.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
quest_seaofghosts.esp
Sky Haven Temple M&M3.esp
Snowbound Acres.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Windhelm Lighthouse.esp
SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
GuardAnimationsGDO.esp
Paralysis.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
ORM Convenient Alsvid.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
REGS - Better Docks.esp
ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
tos_amber_guard.esp
tos_laintardale_hf.esp
Better City Entrances - No Whiterun.esp
Understone Keep Repair.esp
UniqueBorderGates-All.esp
UniqueBorderGates-All-BetterDGEntrance.esp
UniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp
BFT Ships and Carriages.esp
Provincial Courier Service.esp
RealisticRoomRental.esp
BooksOfSkyrim.esp
REGS Patch - NSutR + RRR.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
RealShelter.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
Vividian ENB.esp
Better Vampires.esp
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
BFSEffects.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
VioLens.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
Beards.esp
Brows.esp
NB-Scars.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp
3DNPC.esp
JKs Skyrim Major Cities.esp
REGS Patch - Riften NavFull.esp
REGS Patch - 3DNPC.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete.esp
ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete ORS Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete BFT Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp
NerniesCityandVillageExpansion.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
3DNPCEFF.esp
Patch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.esp
Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp
No NPC Greetings.esp
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
RBB - SR Merge.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
Atlas Legendary.esp
Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp
Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
CCO_SIC_Patch.esp
CCO_Frostfall_Patch.esp
WAF_CCF_SIC Patch.esp
ELE_Legendary_Fs_Wt_Lite.esp
SR Conflict Resolution.esp
REGS - SRLE Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
RSPatch.esp
DynDOLOD.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp
ASIS.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete RS Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete WC Holidays Patch.esp
ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp
ETaC - Whiterun Ext ELFX Patch.esp
ETaC Complete - BOYD NPC Fix.esp
BlackreachOverhaul.esp
FarmhouseChimneys.esp
FarmhouseChimneysCRF.esp
FarmhouseChimneysFalskaar.esp
FarmhouseChimneysMaS.esp
FarmhouseChimneysWyrmstooth.esp
Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
Better Vampires weapon speed fix.esp
PerMa-Content Addon Patch.esp
PerMa_Survivalism.esp
PerMa_USKP master patch.esp
Pre PaMa CCF Patch.esp
Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp
Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR BoYD Patch.esp
Wyrmstooth - PerMa Patch.esp
PerMa Headless.esp
PerkusRangedPatch.esp
PerMaExtendedPerkDescriptions.esp
MFVM_EFF_Patch.esp
MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch.esp
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
PatchusMaximus.esp
Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp

 

 

How can i start tracking this issue? Any advice will be highly aprecieated.

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No "just do this and it'll be fine" solution, but make sure you update RaceMenu to its latest version, there have been an issue with NiOverride which got corrected in v3.2.2. And make sure to update XPMSE as well (just got uploaded on its own page), MO wouldn't mark it as "new version available" before, but there have been quite a lot of fixesthose past months.

 

If both are up to date... you'll need someone else's help.

 

 

Also, turn on papyrus logging via skyrim.ini :

[Papyrus]
bEnableTrace = 1
bEnableLogging = 1

And post the content of C:\Users\yourUserName\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\Logs\Script\Papyrus.0.log here, this kind of crash is usually linked to an unsafe papyrus call, which should be reported in there.

Edited by Kesta
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I have no idea how out of 300 mods you managed to get this one causing my problem - it seems it was indeed a bug with either Race Menu or XPMSE - reinstall fixed it perfectly.

Thanks Kesta! Sorry about this Spoiler thingy. I'll remember to use it in a future.

Edited by zielakxar
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It seems I was happy a bit too early. After an hour of playing or in some specific places i still experience CTD's. I've managed to find that it is probably memory issue.

 

Here is what  I got in my MemoryBlocksLog.log after using https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50471/?:

 

 

 

logging of blocks enabled
logging max values only
Timer disabled
Block1 Block2
512MB    256MB
85    8
85    8
85    9
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508    256
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510    256
512    256

 

 

 

So CTD-s occur when 1st block reaches 512.

 

What is strange to me is that in SKSE.ini i have:

 

 

[General]
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

[Display]
iTintTextureResolution=2048

 

 

Why is 1st block limited to 512? when DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768 ? Changing DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB to 1024 causes CTD on game start.

 

Any suggestions? Have i missed something?

Edited by zielakxar
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I've seen Sheson https://enbdev.com/ctdfix.html and was considering to try it but in the end I decided to wait for advice from forum. So currently I have NOT given Sheson my 1stborn :) (never installed it yet). I only followed Memory patches that are described in https://wiki.step-project.com/User:Neovalen/Skyrim_Revisited_-_Legendary_Edition guide.

My SKSE.ini is in : D:\Games\Skyrim tools\Mod Organizer\mods\Skyrim Script Extender\SKSE\SKSE.ini

My Game is in D:\Games\Skyrim

 

Also in my enblocal.ini i have:

ReservedMemorySizeMb=1024
VideoMemorySizeMb=2902

 

Since i have 16GB RAM and 3 GB Vram. I've set VideoMemorySizeMb acording to : https://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:ENBlocal_INI/Memory#VideoMemorySizeMb so it should be correct considering I have windows 7

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The first block is limited to 512 cause the 768 is the total amount of memory you've allocated. You have to take the scrap heap off that so 768-256=512. So that suggests the SKSE.ini is being seen by the game OK.

 

With 16 Gig of RAm and 3 Gig of card RAM, you could try maybe upping the VideoMemorySizeMB noticeably. Try something like 8192 or 6144. Change the SKSE.ini 768 to 1024 and change the ReservedMemorySizeMB to 512 or there abouts.

 

I have 16 Gig of Ram and 3 Gig of Vram on my machine and I run VideoMemorySizeMB of 8192 and have room for more if needed. I also run the SKSE numbers as 1024 and 256 with no issues.

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I've been experimenting a bit and :

DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=1024
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

 

Gives me crash but

DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=1024
ScrapHeapSizeMB=512

 

Seems to be ok.

and now in my Memory Blocks Log i have in the end:

520    256
521    256
522    256

 

So it got past 512 and no CTD's so far. Lets see after couple hours.

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