@Gernash 1st. order of business : :sing: Thanks a lot. Your guide helped a lot. I uninstalled everything (except my mods, because 16 gigs doesn't just go away and come back that easily!), including loot, mo, and I did my best to refresh the Fallout 4 folder (takes ages to verify). The Windows event viewer was telling me that it was an issue with Visual Basic 2013, so I repaired both the x86 and x64 versions and restarted before installing MO2 like the wiki, after installing loot. I am currently able to use loot. This is amazing. It says the other plugins are not enabled, but I can still sort them in LOOT so It's still a win, (but not from MO, the sort function is still broken). (Oddly enough, Loot claims that New Calibers.esp should have priority over some esm's..) Great 'STEP' forward.... *snicker*.... FO4Edit also seems to be working. I keep it in [C:/Games/Mods/xEdit/...], so I can keep all the stuff updated all at once. Unfortunately, Every time I run loot, the plugins I specifically disabled in MO2 are enabled again when I close LOOT. I realize now that this was probably because I had fallou4 open to redownload Modern firearms. Upon closing Fallout, Loot no longer opens. Yay. FML. :confused: